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#21 ·
Diesel4Ever said:
A co-worker is upgrading to a new Subaru and wants to sell his 2014 Cruze Diesel.

He is offering it to me for the same price Carmax offered him, which is $8K. He is the 2nd owner and it currently has about 50K miles.

He knows I like VW diesels, currently own a 2003 Jetta and Golf TDI 5MT which is why he offered me the car.

He says it has an issue with hesitation and bucking and says it was from an ECU flash the dealer did. Other than that, it is G2G he says.

Is the 2014 cruze diesel a good car? I honestly know nothing about these cars, however it has leather and it pretty nice inside. It seems like a good deal if it doesn't have any issues.

Is it worth selling my 2003 Jetta TDI with 275K that averages 44.4 MPG to get this car?

Is there anything I should be looking out for, like a "Red Flag" with these cars that would be a deal killer?

TIA
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My opinion would be "Don't buy it"! The diesel has too many issues that even some chevy dealerships can't handle. If you want a cruze stick with the 1.8 DOHC 16V or 1.4 turbo. The 1.8 is my favorite. Its got enough power to make it fun to drive and its the least needy as far as maintenance.
 
#22 ·
Diesel4Ever said:
I decided to buy the Cruze. I liked the way it drove and the interior was nice. The "bucking" was minor and under light throttle. It was barely noticeable really.

Overall it was in good condition with a few imperfections that will need to be fixed. It does not have GPS though which is disappointing. I will need to install an aftermarket unit.

Does Fleece still do delete tunes for this Car? I couldn't find anything on their website.

Who has the best software? Not interested in max power, want better efficiency, reliability, etc..
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Cool, I would not worry about not having the GPS Nav, I do have it in my 2015, and it's not good anyway, Android auto or the similar Apple product is going to be much better than the factory nav, that needs expensive periodic update to be of any use. I don't even bother on mine, and just use Andriod Auto to take care of GPS needs.

I did get a Kerma TDI tuner for mine, but only used it on my other 2015 which I traded. The one I still have remains stock. That tuner was for a stock emissions car, the Oz/Fleece is for a delete. If you going to spend the money, I would go for the delete, that will eliminate all of the potential issues with this car.
 
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cadco1 said:
My opinion would be "Don't buy it"! The diesel has too many issues that even some chevy dealerships can't handle. If you want a cruze stick with the 1.8 DOHC 16V or 1.4 turbo. The 1.8 is my favorite. Its got enough power to make it fun to drive and its the least needy as far as maintenance.
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While it's true some dealerships are not going to do good work, that is not by any means exclusive to work on the LUZ Diesel. Virtually every issue anyone has reported, except some of the transmission issues, is due to the emissions, and as others have already pointed out, a delete fixed that, or use on mostly highway miles and the system works OK. Now do only short city driving and you are asking for trouble, but that is actually true for most vehicles to some extent, except maybe an electric.. but you can get 800 miles plus range on the diesel, you won't do that in any gas car without some massive gas tank modification.

I still have my '96 Saturn, it has been really low maintenance and is well over 200K miles.. I used to think it had amazing MPG, but now compared to the Diesels, it is gas guzzler, while being a smaller, lighter car with far fewer comforts.

To have decent performance, and economy, you really don't find that in anything but an diesel car.

It is also worth noting, the OP has a user name of "Diesel4Ever", so I don't think he's going to be very interested in a gasser.... just saying;)
 
#25 ·
Diesel4Ever said:
A co-worker is upgrading to a new Subaru and wants to sell his 2014 Cruze Diesel.

He is offering it to me for the same price Carmax offered him, which is $8K. He is the 2nd owner and it currently has about 50K miles.

He knows I like VW diesels, currently own a 2003 Jetta and Golf TDI 5MT which is why he offered me the car.

He says it has an issue with hesitation and bucking and says it was from an ECU flash the dealer did. Other than that, it is G2G he says.

Is the 2014 cruze diesel a good car? I honestly know nothing about these cars, however it has leather and it pretty nice inside. It seems like a good deal if it doesn't have any issues.

Is it worth selling my 2003 Jetta TDI with 275K that averages 44.4 MPG to get this car?

Is there anything I should be looking out for, like a "Red Flag" with these cars that would be a deal killer?

TIA
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I have a 2014 2.0L TD Cruze has 26050 miles. Purchased Dec 24th 2014 for my wife (X-Mas) present has factory Navigation and collision warning and and lane change. Needed EGT sensor at 21,000 I replaced it was out of warranty. The DEF heater tank replaced under recall. Then at 23500 miles the fuel filter. Has been a great car. No dents or dings. I would not sell it for less than $13500. Hope that helps
 
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Toolman said:
I think the Fleece tune is under Oz Tuners now. You can get everything that you need at www.puredieselpower.com
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They won't ship anything to me because of where I live. I'll have to find another vendor. Thanks anyway.

Has anyone with a delete and tune scanned their emissions equipment for readyness codes with an OBDII scanner?

Can somebody try doing that for me?
 
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When I had the delete kit installed, with the dealerships knowledge and approval I might ad, they explained it to me.
They installed a new down pipe, bored out the DPF, left the sensors and wiring complete, and left in the DEF tank. Upon a quick visual inspection all appears to be OEM equipment.

Any reference to the emissions was deleted from the computer. The dealer told me that if I ever needed repairs that involved the computer, they would have to add that portion back into the computer. The place that did the delete kit can remove it again for a small fee.

I asked the delete mechanic if I would notice any difference. Yes was his reply. 10-20% better mileage and they tuned it up and gave me another 30 horse power.

My daily commute is 200 miles round trip. I can say that I am now averaging 51-52 MPG on the highway. We drive 74-80 miles an hour.

This weekend we took a trip to a county fair. 212 miles round trip. I used 3.2 gallons. 65 was the top speed the whole way.

The best I ever got was coming out of Colorado heading east on I-80. 87 mpg for 25 miles at 80 mph.

There is no question about the diesel. I'd buy another one if they were still being built.
 
#28 ·
jeffreyc said:
When I had the delete kit installed, with the dealerships knowledge and approval I might ad, they explained it to me.
They installed a new down pipe, bored out the DPF, left the sensors and wiring complete, and left in the DEF tank. Upon a quick visual inspection all appears to be OEM equipment.

Any reference to the emissions was deleted from the computer. The dealer told me that if I ever needed repairs that involved the computer, they would have to add that portion back into the computer. The place that did the delete kit can remove it again for a small fee.

I asked the delete mechanic if I would notice any difference. Yes was his reply. 10-20% better mileage and they tuned it up and gave me another 30 horse power.

My daily commute is 200 miles round trip. I can say that I am now averaging 51-52 MPG on the highway. We drive 74-80 miles an hour.

This weekend we took a trip to a county fair. 212 miles round trip. I used 3.2 gallons. 65 was the top speed the whole way.

The best I ever got was coming out of Colorado heading east on I-80. 87 mpg for 25 miles at 80 mph.

There is no question about the diesel. I'd buy another one if they were still being built.
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why bore out the dpf if a downpipe is installed?
 
#29 ·
All the delete options are gone now due to a crack down recently, like a month ago.

Thanks EPA.
 
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#31 ·
boraz said:
i posted links to downpipe and tune, today.
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Good luck trying to actually get the items.

I'm new to this diesel delete stuff but it is over.

Some suggest that IF yours is deleted the EPA now has your signed statement it is intended for off road use only they obtained in the various raids......

Do some searching about what has been going on.

www.epa.gov

Performance Diesel, Inc. Clean Air Act Settlement Information Sheet | US EPA

Hess Corporation has agreed to pay an $850,000 civil penalty and spend more than $45 million in new pollution controls to resolve Clean Air Act violations.
www.epa.gov www.epa.gov
 
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#32 ·
I bought mine because I was tired of filling up twice a week and I was getting bored with the car I had.

My only reservation was the expense of diesel specific repairs. This car was hard to like at first due to all of the recalls and warranty issues. But the last 30-40k miles have just been normal wear and tear - non diesel type repairs - stuff you would have on any car. GM at least did a good job with the extended warranty and specialty coverages with it. If you can find one that has already had all of that done then I would pick it up if it were similar in price to a normal Cruze. The extra MPG is crazy.

I've owned this car longer than I've ever owned a car before. I drive around 30k miles a year so I figure if I am going to rack up a ton of miles I might as well keep the car I paid a premium for the better MPG. I can't imagine the resail value on these is very good so if I'm going to kill a car's value by putting miles on it, this will be the one.
 
#33 ·
Rivergoer said:
Yep. Downpipe (replaces DPF) plus tuner/software. There’s an optional EGR delete blocking plate as well, but not required (EGR is disabled).

More here:

www.cruzetalk.com

How to: DPF, DEF removal and downpipe/egr delete/oz...

I took the time to do a full writeup on this mod. I’d like to give a specific shoutout to sparspangled6.0 and Aaron/VA for their contributions and most of the photos I utilized for this writeup. This project is not necessarily a beginner project and I’d suggest if you have no mechanical...
www.cruzetalk.com www.cruzetalk.com
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OZ is shutdown, do you know of any other place?
 
#34 ·
kakers02 said:
OZ is shutdown, do you know of any other place?
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Unfortunately no, EPA cracked down.

But the entire US West coast ablaze is apparently perfectly acceptable (SMH).
 
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What does poor state forest management have to do with intentional non-compliance with the EPA? :sneaky:
 
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