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1.4 ECO - Thermostat Swap - 221°F to 176°F!

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#1 · (Edited)
OK, let’s start!
I had multiple Cruze cars since 2011, unfortunately I can’t say I have/had one free of issues! Talking about the heating and cooling, I saw different & multiple issues reported by people. I did many changes to my cars during the years and I’m going to share with you a few interesting things about the thermostat, specific for 1.4L turbo (ECO). It can be similar issues for other trims, even for Diesel, but the cars I tested & modified are Cruze ECO 2011-2014.
Based on testing 4 cars, here are my observations:
First, the “input data”:

  1. The OE Thermostat on Chevy Cruze ECO (1.4L turbo) from 2011 to 2016, is with a wax thermostatic element that starts opening at 105°C (221°F).
  2. The OE Thermostat is also wired and controlled by ECM. Based on different algorithms and program codes, the thermostat can open at any temperature at any time, if the ECM requires that!
  3. The water temperature display gauge is… a joke! I monitored it for different cars and compared with data from OBD. The dial moves when the temperatures increases until… until 185°F (85°C) only! Then stays there, right before 6 o’clock, no matter how high is the real water temperature. When I tested this, I changed the coolant concentration, adding much more water into the system and let the engine run until the water started boiling. The gauge was at the same position max position, telling me “everything’s ok!


4. The expansion OE tank cap is opening only at 20PSI.

Under all these conditions, the coolant temperatures during normal driving conditions stays around 220°-230°F. I said normal driving conditions because when the engine is overheating, the ECM controls and changes everything. It may open the shutter grille to help cooling down and also it can open the thermostat at any temperatures it “wants”, based on data collection. So, not only that you drive with coolant at high temperature, but also the entire system is at high pressure, since the tank cap opens over 20 PSI. In theory, a higher engine operating temperature helps improving its performances. Well, maintaining a higher temperature for the engine and cooling system requires also better quality system parts. Coolant’s boiling point is way too high under the condition I mentioned so everything is ok until… One small crack into the system will lower the PSI and of course the boiling point of your coolant. Add adding more water into the system and you will lower it even more until the coolant will start boiling time to time, without you notice it I replaced the recovery tank a few times, and many hoses all the time! Many others did the same things on this forum.
Sick of changing parts all year along I decided to change the thermostat and go “old school”. It took me a while until I found something that works but here is what I did. I bought a new thermostat housing 55593035Dorman 902-2080 (GM) that is for Cadillac ELR 2014 Chevy Volt 2011-2014. Do not buy MotoRad, it is a different new model, it will not work! You need the one with the “cage”, see the attachment. The housing is different from the outside, but the internal thermostat is fully compatible with Cruze’s thermostat housing. Push the cage and rotate as in my picture, then take out the spring and “cage”. The thermostat will come out relatively easy. It looks the same as the other one, only the wax inside is different and starts opening at 176°F (80°C). Be careful with the 2 legs, don’t bend them so they can go straight back into the housing.
I’ll not got into details of how to take out the existing thermostat, there are good posts on this forum. Put everything back, and make sure you have enough coolant. Then, old school again, I changed the tank cover with one that is opening at 15 PSI, not 20 PSI (MOTORAD T46 )!
I did this replacement on 6 ECO-s and these cars have between 500 to 3200 miles since. No issues at all! The temperature goes usually up to ~184°F then the thermostat is fully opened so the temperature goes down around 180°F. I didn’t notice any drastic changes to MPG! I have hot air blowing inside the car as I had before the swap.
I did all the changes I mentioned because me and my friends have multiple issues with the cooling system since 2011. If you like the solution and have questions, please let me know. I don’t want to argue with anybody about why GM built the system in the way it is so don’t challenge me! :p

 
#275 ·
Did this tstat swap on my 14 w/while changing my turbo last year, kept the 20lb cap, what a world of difference it has made. Currently have 41k miles on it with no issues at all. I did use oem parts to complete this swap.

I never see 200+ temps anymore. Temp needle floats between 1 and 2 notches under the half mark. Per live data on my scan tool, I am running between 160 and 183. During the summer this year temp stayed at the cooler end of the range in 80+ degree weather doing 75 on the freeway.
 
#277 ·
Good evening i just did this mod on a 2016 cruze limited (basically a 2015) that has the 1.4 turbo. i have been fighting overheat warning only during highway cruise speeds with. In town it would run between 221-230 then on the highway it would run aroind 221-237 then occasionally go to 255 setting off the idle engine warning.
After the mod it runs around 190-205 in town and 205-217 at cruising speed once reacing 244 right before dropping to 201. Everything has been replaced....Everything from the water pump to the radiator to both cooling sensors. This car has 83,000 miles. No oil in the coolant, no coolant in the oil, and the coolant system holds pressure. I'm out of ideas but open to suggestions. No exhaust gas in the coolant at idle for sure. Not sure about highway under load.
 
#283 ·
you can boil the coolant without even know...
Provided you thin it out with a bunch of water, in which case you're making it do that on purpose. Why in the world do you think that's a problem?

You're definitely lowering your fuel economy; the reason you haven't noticed it is that you haven't looked carefully enough. It's a small percentage, but the Racer's Adage applies.
 
#288 ·
Provided you thin it out with a bunch of water, in which case you're making it do that on purpose. Why in the world do you think that's a problem?

You're definitely lowering your fuel economy; the reason you haven't noticed it is that you haven't looked carefully enough. It's a small percentage, but the Racer's Adage applies.
I drilled a 3/16 hole through mine temp stays around 200° +\- 5 you could drill two
To:Cruze-Cruze, I would love to try your Thermostat modification. But the Dorman 902-2080 is unavailable now.
Any other thermos that would be worthy of this mod??? The only one I have found is a aluminum casting that ZZ Performance offers and whit my luck they are sold out, this particular one opens at 206 degrees. And I just tried a
Motorad Thermo insert 724-203 that opens at 203 but it won't fit properly on the shaft of the OEM housing.
So my question is what can I do now to replace with a lower temp thermo. And what part number and brand was the
15 psi cap that you used on the mod???
 
#289 ·
OK, let’s start!
I had multiple Cruze cars since 2011, unfortunately I can’t say I have/had one free of issues! Talking about the heating and cooling, I saw different & multiple issues reported by people. I did many changes to my cars during the years and I’m going to share with you a few interesting things about the thermostat, specific for 1.4L turbo (ECO). It can be similar issues for other trims, even for Diesel, but the cars I tested & modified are Cruze ECO 2011-2014.
Based on testing 4 cars, here are my observations:
First, the “input data”:

  1. The OE Thermostat on Chevy Cruze ECO (1.4L turbo) from 2011 to 2016, is with a wax thermostatic element that starts opening at 105°C (221°F).
  2. The OE Thermostat is also wired and controlled by ECM. Based on different algorithms and program codes, the thermostat can open at any temperature at any time, if the ECM requires that!
  3. The water temperature display gauge is… a joke! I monitored it for different cars and compared with data from OBD. The dial moves when the temperatures increases until… until 185°F (85°C) only! Then stays there, right before 6 o’clock, no matter how high is the real water temperature. When I tested this, I changed the coolant concentration, adding much more water into the system and let the engine run until the water started boiling. The gauge was at the same position max position, telling me “everything’s ok!
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4. The expansion OE tank cap is opening only at 20PSI.

Under all these conditions, the coolant temperatures during normal driving conditions stays around 220°-230°F. I said normal driving conditions because when the engine is overheating, the ECM controls and changes everything. It may open the shutter grille to help cooling down and also it can open the thermostat at any temperatures it “wants”, based on data collection. So, not only that you drive with coolant at high temperature, but also the entire system is at high pressure, since the tank cap opens over 20 PSI. In theory, a higher engine operating temperature helps improving its performances. Well, maintaining a higher temperature for the engine and cooling system requires also better quality system parts. Coolant’s boiling point is way too high under the condition I mentioned so everything is ok until… One small crack into the system will lower the PSI and of course the boiling point of your coolant. Add adding more water into the system and you will lower it even more until the coolant will start boiling time to time, without you notice it I replaced the recovery tank a few times, and many hoses all the time! Many others did the same things on this forum.
Sick of changing parts all year along I decided to change the thermostat and go “old school”. It took me a while until I found something that works but here is what I did. I bought a new thermostat housing 55593035Dorman 902-2080 (GM) that is for Cadillac ELR 2014 Chevy Volt 2011-2014. Do not buy MotoRad, it is a different new model, it will not work! You need the one with the “cage”, see the attachment. The housing is different from the outside, but the internal thermostat is fully compatible with Cruze’s thermostat housing. Push the cage and rotate as in my picture, then take out the spring and “cage”. The thermostat will come out relatively easy. It looks the same as the other one, only the wax inside is different and starts opening at 176°F (80°C). Be careful with the 2 legs, don’t bend them so they can go straight back into the housing.
I’ll not got into details of how to take out the existing thermostat, there are good posts on this forum. Put everything back, and make sure you have enough coolant. Then, old school again, I changed the tank cover with one that is opening at 15 PSI, not 20 PSI (MOTORAD T46 )!
I did this replacement on 6 ECO-s and these cars have between 500 to 3200 miles since. No issues at all! The temperature goes usually up to ~184°F then the thermostat is fully opened so the temperature goes down around 180°F. I didn’t notice any drastic changes to MPG! I have hot air blowing inside the car as I had before the swap.
I did all the changes I mentioned because me and my friends have multiple issues with the cooling system since 2011. If you like the solution and have questions, please let me know. I don’t want to argue with anybody about why GM built the system in the way it is so don’t challenge me! :p

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To; Cruze-Cruze, I would love to try this mod. But the Dorman 902-2080 in unavailable as of this date Dec 14,2023.
What other thermo swaps can i do? and what part# and brand was the 15psi cap that you used on this mod???
 
#296 · (Edited)
178ºF is too much for highway economy! You'll need to pay attention to fuel dilution and act on it!
200ºF would be better while cruising.
The Cap is a 'Hail Mary' device to try and save the hoses from bursting(y) but lowering boil-out to 15PSI; on the next overheating event, can cost you the head gasket instead!
Better install a coolant level sensor the LTZ, RS & Diesels have, IMO.
 
#297 ·
178ºF is too much for highway economy! You'll need to pay attention to fuel dilution and act on it!
200ºF would be better while cruising.
The Cap is a 'Hail Mary' device to try and save the hoses from bursting(y) but lowering boil-out to 15PSI, on the next overheating event, can cost you the head gasket instead!
Better install a coolant level sensor the LTZ, RS & Diesels have, IMO.
Tell me more about this sensor.
 
#309 ·
Just want to say thank you for this write up. I know it’s old but still relevant info. I did it today and wow what a difference on temps. I was getting temps of as low as 177 on the high way to 186ish. City driving stopped at a traffic signal woo ups go up to 195ish. Big reduction from 221 or higher. Also let it idle for a good long time and notice the fan coming on earlier(no ac) at 215, before it was 233. 30-40 deg reduction is significant! Thanks awesome job.
 

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#310 ·
Glad you're satisfied, kudos to you!
Having said that, keep in mind those new low temps are only useful b/c of the flimsy cooling sys plastics & hoses the Cruze has.
Keep an eye on fuel trims and oil fuel dilution, as oil trapped gas wears and corrodes cylinders, journals, bearings.. :unsure:

Just want to say 40ºF diff on OT is a bit too much. If only we could reverse the new ranges, that is:
A. -180ish at stop signals, heavy traffic, & city driving.
B. -195ish on the highway, cruising, etc...

Simple way to achieve this would be, maybe:
A. -Low speed RAD fan @t idling above 180..
B. -Added ECO grid shutters from a scrapyard closed below 200 when not idling or at speed.
Just a thought :coffee:
 
#314 · (Edited)
Kudos to your initiative! Against facts, there are no arguments.. on a flimsy, cracking plastic ridden engine, a lower OT will only improve reliability.

Having said that, some highly regarded forum administrator just pointed out; a friend of his, with the low temp T-stat installed, had his engine destroyed, supposedly due to high fuel dilution! Maybe he was having extended oil changes without a UOA?

So.. must we take care to keep, a pre-existing Cruze problem in check, in order to avoid the same fate?