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#1 ·
Now is not a good time to consider one of the final CRUZE Sedans?

Lordstown, Ohio, was defined by its General Motors plant. Now workers say job cuts threaten the lives they’ve built

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A mural in Lordstown, Ohio. The GM plant here employs 1,600 workers. Photograph: Tony Dejak/APThere’s a sign outside the General Motors assembly plant in Lordstown, Ohio, that reads: “GM, We Invested in You. Now It’s Your Turn to Invest in US.”
.Ever since the US’s largest car company’s immense assembly plant opened here 52 years ago, it has dominated this blue-collar town. Now GM workers here are furious that the automaker plans to idle – and perhaps permanently close – the plant.
GM stunned its workforce on 26 November, the Monday after Thanksgiving, by announcing it would cut roughly 14,000 jobs and idle five factories in North America, including the Lordstown plant, which employs 1,600 workers. One factor stoking the workers’ ire is that GM’s move came after American taxpayers rescued it from bankruptcy with a $49.5bn federal bailout in 2009.
While some have blamed Trump policies for the closure, or at least for his inability to stop them, it’s the company that workers hold most responsible.
“Their announcement was really a kick in the stomach,” said Danny Adams, who has worked at the plant since 1996. “It’s not woe is me. It’s woe is us.”
Like many GM workers here, Adams, 53, is worried and bitter, not knowing where he might find a new job and wondering whether he’s too old to train for a new career. Adams could perhaps transfer to another GM plant, but he fears that such a move would be hugely trying for his 15-year-old son.
“This is devastating. This is our livelihood,” said Stephanie Allein, 40, who began working for GM in 2000 and was transferred to Lordstown in 2010.
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Reactions at a union meeting in Oshawa, Ontario, one of the regions also affected by the layoffs. Photograph: Lars Hagberg/AFP/Getty Images“This isn’t my first rodeo,” Allein said. “This is my third GM plant. I’d like to be able to plant my roots somewhere. I feel like a gypsy.” Allein, who helps assemble dashboards, transferred to Lordstown when her GM plant in Shreveport, Louisiana, closed. Before Shreveport, she worked at a GM-owned Delphi auto parts plant in Lockport, New York, which laid her off in 2006.
“When I came here,” Allein said, “there was this feeling this plant has been around forever, that this plant wasn’t going anywhere. You felt a security coming here. People bought houses.” The Lordstown facility occupies over 900 acres and has produced more than 16m vehicles, including Pontiac Firebirds and Chevy Cavaliers and Vegas. Last year, it generated $250m in wages, money that was the engine of Lordstown’s economy.
GM’s decision left people fuming, but not without hope, because it didn’t say the plant was closing. Rather, it said the plant was “unallocated”. That day, GM announced it was ending production of the Chevy Cruze in the US – that’s the car the Lordstown plant makes (although GM will continue to produce the Cruze in Mexico along with several crossover vehicles). GM was responding to a slowdown in sales of smaller cars, like the Cruze, and to Trump’s easing fuel economy standards, a move making it easier for automakers to focus on producing larger cars and trucks.
This is devastating. This is our livelihood
Stephanie Allein, autoworker​
GM said it was idling Lordstown and four other plants – in Detroit; Baltimore; Warren, Michigan; and Oshawa, Ontario – to cut costs and free up money to invest in electric and autonomous cars. The Lordstown workers hope GM will opt to assemble another car, perhaps an electric car, here. “We should be building the next-generation car here,” Allein said. “We should be building the crossovers here, not in Mexico.”
The workers are also angry that GM, helped by the $1tn corporate tax enacted last year, has spent nearly $14bn on stock buybacks since 2015, money that could have been invested in developing next-generation vehicles.
There’s a bipartisan push to save the plant. Governor John Kasich, a Republican, Senator Sherrod Brown, a Democrat, and Senator Rob Portman, a Republican, have pressed GM’s chief executive, Mary Barra, to find a way to keep the plant open. Brown, who is contemplating a presidential run in 2020, has urged Trump to back legislation he has introduced that would give consumers $3,500 rebates on American-made cars.
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Mary Barra, the chief executive officer of General Motors, speaks to reporters in Washington. Photograph: Drew Angerer/Getty ImagesUnited Auto Workers Local 1112 here has mounted a letter-writing campaign – including hundreds of letters from children – to urge Barra not to shutter the plant. Jake Shevetz, a second grader, wrote: “I don’t want to move and the families that have to move probably don’t want to. But my mom says if they get something new, we won’t have to move.”
Cheryl Jonesco, who was laid off in early 2017 when the Lordstown plant cut its third shift, said: “They’re receiving our taxpayer dollars and investing in these other countries. I don’t know how Barra can lay in her bed and sleep at night.”
Dave Green, president of UAW Local 1112, said his goal wasn’t just to persuade GM to keep the plant open, but to make sure the workers have alternatives. His local has created a transition center that workers stream into day after day, to ask for help finding another job or getting retraining.
“GM is betraying the American worker, the American taxpayer,” Green said. “Chevrolet is apple pie. It’s an American icon. What disturbs me is GM is going to exit this entry-level segment. If there’s no entry-level cars, what are they going to put people in? Are we going to see Toyota, Honda and Kia gain market share and GM throwing in the towel?”
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Inside General Motors’ Lordstown assembly plant. Photograph: Mark Duncan/APLast April, Ford announced it was eliminating traditional sedans from its US lineup, except for the Mustang, ending production of the Focus, Fusion, Fiesta and Taurus. That came after Fiat Chrysler cut the Dodge Dart and Chrysler 200 to concentrate on more profitable Ram pickups and Jeep SUVs.
Adams says GM is making a strategic mistake by ending US production of the Cruze and several other sedans: the Chevy Impala, Chevy Volt and Buick LaCrosse. “GM had the perfect opportunity to say, ‘We are the only American car manufacturing company that is building cars in the USA.’ They could have been like Harley-Davidson. They missed it right there because they want their pockets full of money.”
In a speech in nearby Youngstown in July 2017, Trump promised to bring back auto jobs. “They’re all coming back,” he said. “Don’t move, don’t sell your house.” Trump has criticized GM about layoffs, but the Lordstown workers say he hasn’t done enough.
“If you’re going to make promises, you got to keep your promises,” Adams said. “I’m sorry. We’re blue-collar. You shake my hand. It’s a promise.”
Many workers suspect that GM announced that it was leaving Lordstown “unallocated” rather than closing it outright in order to pressure the UAW to grant some concessions in next year’s contract negotiations to help persuade GM to keep the plant open.
If that’s GM’s tactic, Adams isn’t buying it. “That’s 100% union-busting,” he said. “They’re just trying to make us beg.”
While the workers feel anger, they also feel a lot of pride. They’re proud that the Cruze and the high marks it received helped restore GM’s reputation after the 2009 bankruptcy. “When we heard the news in November, we went right back to our jobs,” Allein said. “We give 100%. We didn’t give up. I don’t think anybody is ready to give up. No one wants to believe that this is it for Lordstown.”
 
#2 ·
Yet GM continues to run the, "My Daddy works for Chevy,My Mommy works for Chevy..................." and even worse,in the last 15 secs of the ad,they showed a beautiful black Cruze Primier in a field of snow-all by itself!!!! As Cheeto would tweet,SAD!
 
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“GM had the perfect opportunity to say, ‘We are the only American car manufacturing company that is building cars in the USA.’ They could have been like Harley-Davidson."

So, uh... you are aware that HD is in serious problems right now? GM has the same problem: building products when sales are tanking.

Does anyone think they're giving up on the Cruze because it's at the top of the sales charts? NOPE.

Third shift was laid off in 2017 because sales were sinking. Second shift was laid off in April because sales were sinking. And now they're taking the Cruze off the market in the USA because sales are sinking.
 
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Many workers suspect that GM announced that it was leaving Lordstown “unallocated” rather than closing it outright in order to pressure the UAW to grant some concessions in next year’s contract negotiations to help persuade GM to keep the plant open.
If that’s GM’s tactic, Adams isn’t buying it. “That’s 100% union-busting,” he said. “They’re just trying to make us beg.”

Unsurprisingly, this is 100% correct. And it works. GM is stacking the deck so the UAW will come into negotiations willing to compromise.
 
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This just in from the Orange Pustule tweets this morning (note #2):
[h=1]Trump says closing border with Mexico would be profitable[/h]

President Trump's tweets this morning contend that closing the border with Mexico will be a "profit-making operation" because the U.S. loses over $75B a year under Nafta, he says.
Also part of the "close the Southern border" tweet missive--"Bring our car industry back to the United States where it belongs."
In the fourth tweet of the series, he says the U.S. will cut off all aid to Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador. "Word is that a new Caravan is forming in Honduras and they are doing nothing about it."'

 
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Yeah, it was such an abomination that the year old hatch was built not in Lordstown it went away today. We are back to a one Cruze TD family, a 17 sedan.

If anybody wants info on the dealership that has the 18 Diesel hatch let me know and post it. Based on what the allowed me for it it will be a decent deal.
 
#21 ·
Saw the ,"My parents were laid off.....buy a Cruze" ad again tonight. Along with several other ads showing vehicles that are still being produced. Maybe they will stop the Cruze ad on March 31.
 
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Yes. A proud union worker has to be prepared to stand firm & let them stick the job up their rear end IF it means constantly getting shafted EVERY contract. I have been there & know exactly the choice the worker has to make. If they choose to walk & let GM close the plant I support the workers decision. I may have just bought my last GM product.
 
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This is mostly Unions fault. I bet they wouldn't allow GM to make this a multi car site. they have held GM by the balls many times. Its time you people wake up and realize the Union is destroying these Jobs. The worker here can make as much as honda and Toyota plants but they also have to pay union dues and Gm has to employee people to deal with the unions. These things don't make the company money in the long run or help the employee. We don't know the real reason for the Blazer being built in Mexico. One was it was planned years ago when they didn't have the US capacity they say. I don't agree, I think it was the UAW wouldn't allow them to build multiple vehicles in some of the plants. I like GM and will buy going forward, however we need to bust the Union its not needed anymore and mostly supports workers who don't give a **** about their job. I know a lot do care but the few who don't cause issues. No company should be forced to work with a Union that waste its members money and only really looks out for themselves.

I know this is not a popular statement but the UAW is not needed anymore.
 
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Oh where to begin

First off, Happy New Year to all. May 2019 be a Healthy and Prosperous New year for all of us.

i am 64 and live in the Lordstown backyard of Youngstown Ohio...largest city to benefit from the farm village that Lordstown was before GM came in the 60’s

sure it has been wonderful for the area,as is Any time a major manufacturer builds a plant somewhere. And I truly feel for Anyone who loses a job....Especially those at age 55+.....Much harder to take than younger folks who Can recover easier.

But this IS America (at least for now) and GM has Every Right to make this decision....as crappie as it is for all who work there and live in the area.

Just as as it is Our right to not buy the majority of inferior vehicles that came from there Prior to the Cruze, which is a pretty darn good car for its segment.

GM and Chrysler should NEVER have been given a bailout as the Government did. Loans, Yes.....as Chrysler was given in the 70’s....and paid back.

But they were and now you see what loyalty GM has to how thei asses were bailed out.

and for those of you who wat to blame Mr. Trump, please give me a break. I do not agree with many of Mr. Trumps decisions but if Anyone in the White House has fought for blue collar workers since the 50’s it has been Trump.

but Again we are Not in China or Russia and the Government does Not have the power to MAKE a company (or individual......yet?) to buy,sell, or in this case, keep open or move their business to another area.

i hope Trump And the Congress do Everything to dissuade and use Legal punitive actions at GM for their “slap in the face” GM has given the tax payer after we bailed their sorry ass out

i DO THINK all the so called Big 3 (no longer accurate or appropriate moniker) are making a mistake abandoning the car market. The buying public like Everything, is cyclical and the market will increase for sedans and cars again someday. In the meantime, I get that they have to make market based decisions and focus on what sells. But to shutter the car segment altogether sounds stupid and short sighted to me.

dont see Toyota,Honda, or others doing that....so what does That tell ya

so my heart goes out to you folks at All plants that have closed or will be closing Everywhere......maybe they could have been persuaded to stay in place if ya had Right to Work in place.. why else are everyone fromBMW to Nissan opening plants in America down South.....no UNion Headaches....and the people have great wages and benefits! ( yes I know you can argue that Unions played a part in changing wage and benefit packages....but that was many many years ago, and like the typewriter and cassette player, unions have outlived their use.

so let’s hope ,at least for Lordstown here in my area, GM, or someone,will move into the plant and produce jobs and may all those layed off find a quick solution to their economic woes.
 
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First off, Happy New Year to all. May 2019 be a Healthy and Prosperous New year for all of us.


And I truly feel for Anyone who loses a job....Especially those at age 55+.....Much harder to take than younger folks who Can recover easier.

so let’s hope ,at least for Lordstown here in my area, GM, or someone,will move into the plant and produce jobs and may all those layed off find a quick solution to their economic woes.

Well at GM if your age 55, you can start collecting your pension. So don't really feel bad for them. Also keep in mind that everyone at Lordstown has the option to transfer at other plants. The question is will they remain like potted plants and stay in the same spot or will they get up and move for a better life? Also I know hundreds of people are in the process of moving right now and getting out of the Youngstown area for other jobs at other GM plants across the country. They are slated to start in mid Jan.
 
#47 ·
My '17 Cruze is my 3rd consecutive GM vehicle and it might be my last.

My 2nd Cobalt (a 2009 LT coupe) received numerous recalls, while at one point the whole interior smelled like gasoline. When I took delivery of my Cruze a year and a half ago, I was impressed with how much of an improvement the Cruze was over the budget starter car the Cobalt was. I've always liked my Cruze, but I've really gotten fed up with GM, this month.

This week was the 2nd time in a month I've had to take my Cruze to the dealer for the center tail light water leaking issue. Every time a hard rain rolls through Atlanta, I end up with 2 inches of water in my trunk. Then, the service technician at the dealer tries to find a way to blame the leak on me. Water leaking into a nearly 2-year old car is just unacceptable. Most vehicles tend to suffer from problems with brakes, the transmission, and the engine itself as they age, but this is ridiculous.

Sure, part of the reason why GM is shuttering Lordstown is that people are buying more trucks and SUVs, than small cars- but the issue I've experienced with my Cruze speaks to a lack of quality control. Building a vehicle to fit the market's needs is one thing, but nobody wants to buy a vehicle that takes on water with every rainstorm.

I'm all for buying a vehicle built in the United States, but if this level of quality continues, I have no sympathy for GM closing Lordstown.
 
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I don't buy trucks, SUVs, or crossovers. So I guess my next sedan or hatchback will most likely come from a foreign car company. I have a 2016 Cruze and it has been trouble free for me, with gas mileage that exceeds the EPA estimates. Lease runs out in October and I had intended to lease another Cruze. Now...?
 
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[FONT=&quot][h=1]Born with 'gasoline in his blood,' GM's Reuss adds president to long list of duties[/h]
  • General Motors named company insider Mark Reuss as president Thursday.
  • The 55-year-old's father also served as GM president nearly three decades ago.
  • Reuss was once seen as a contender for CEO before Mary Barra got the job.



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Mark Reuss, General Motors Executive Vice President Global Product Development, speaking last January.

Mark Reuss, the global head of General Motors' product development operations, will add "president" to his already expansive list of duties — the latest in a series of management tweaks under CEO Mary Barra.



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#56 ·
You's peeps think this is all so sad . I don't have any clues to the puzzling news that the world just keeps a turning and all the girls are yearning
In Oklahoma !

In other news the more than 800,000 Federaal Employees are still showing up and furloughed with out any pay because somebodies need a wall to be funded .. sheesh at minimum wage ............

I'd of rather of worked for GM at $ 52.00 an hour and get laid off or transfered with all me savings than have to show up and basicly do nothing for no pay ............
 
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Yes not filling vital posts here and abroad. The State Dept. for one. And when he fills a post in the State Dept,the spokesperson,its a former FOX news reader. THEN he gives her Nikki Haley's job as UN Ambassador with ZERO EXPERIENCE! He only hires the best (his words).