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Valve cover upgrade - need more power

1.2K views 16 replies 2 participants last post by  chorty55  
#1 ·
2nd doreman cover keeps leaking around the odd kick in just to the left of the dipstick.

The OEM failed and warped around the egr openings.

The 1st and 2nd doreman covers did the same.

This 3rd one brand new 10 miles later is wet with oil right at the same area.

I checked the surface with a straight edge. Its flush.

Any good valve cover replacement options? A $10 metallic would be an improvement over the $100 plastic ones
 
#6 ·
Well, I'm really not sure what all is going wrong and why. But I have changed my valve cover twice, and I'm currently running a Dorman so I have some insight on the job.

Since you are about the 1000th person to come on this site with similar issues, I will just list most people's mistakes while doing the job.
1. improper torquing - not using a torque wrench, not realizing it is inch-lbs verses foot-lbs, not following the official torquing sequence, having a cheap torque wrench that is not accurate in the low end.
2. dirty mating surface - the metal has to be clean, like brain surgery clean. Take a razor blade and a clean microfiber towel with alcohol to get everything off the surface.
3. The gasket coming out of place. Make sure every inch of the gasket is pushed into the cover grove, and don't rub on anything during placement.
4.Not lubing the gasket. The gaskets usually come dried out, apply some fresh motor oil an hour or so before install, then another application just before installation. Wipe excess off.
5. Using too much or no gasket maker at the timing chain cover gap. Only a pea sized dab is needed.

You are right about the dipstick hole, it comes way to small. They can be drilled out, or use some sandpaper wrapped around a rod to open it up.

The OEM covers are considered the best. I've used Apex and Dorman without issues. The metal ones I've heard mixed reviews on.
 
#8 ·
Well,I guess before I get a few miles on this latest cover and gasket, I notice under full boost I get a weird chatter under the hood on the passenger side, kinda. Difficult to pinpoint.

Is there another or more valves besides the junk flapper inside the intake, that can fail, or begin to fail, and cause issues?
 
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#10 · (Edited)
How much pressure is acceptable in the crankcase/valve cover if everything is working properly?

I just discovered a crack in the plastic cover in the front, and it spits oil out under boost. I remove the valve cover cap and the leak stops, and blow-by dumps out of the removed cover hole.

V3 fix installed and new intake manifold.

I'm beginning to think there's another botched check valve somewhere else. Oh, under good boost, there's ALOT of crickets/chatter coming down from the turbo area.

Also, according to that link of PVC system, there should be mild vacuum going down to the turbo? My rubber hose balloons up with boost.

I checked the flapper hole in the intake ,my JB weld and button is still there and glued in place.

I'm getting annoyed with this car.

I have no codes or check engine light. Scanner shows boost as expected.

If the turbo is getting questionable/turns hard, would that encourage back pressure before the check valve instead of a slight vacuum?
 
#14 ·
Where it is crumbling is section exhaust gases are pulled into the PCV system, probably the hottest section of the valve cover. That kind of damage in my experience will come but after about 6-8 years. If that is the new manifold, the plastic must be bad or you have something making your car run hot.

 
#15 ·
100 miles on this dorman and fresh gasket.

Dried everything off with brake cleaner. Gasket is dry everywhere else except right at this kick out. And even this valve cover looks like garbage against the aluminum head.

I'm getting so sick of this oil leaking piece of ****.

I've used 3 different torque wrenches, yes, 71 inch pounds, and yes, followed the sequence.

I didn't use or have access to a $45,000 snap on, so I rounded it to 70 inch pounds. Id hate to do something stupid and accidentally tighten them to 72-inch pounds and have a leak or something.....
 

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#16 · (Edited)
Other then an aluminum cover, and goo-gob RTV all over the lower left corner of the cover gasket, which is unnecessary, wtf? I'm stumped.

I've rebuilt 350 Chevy's and plenty of other engines, and this ****** is taking me by surprise.

It loves to leak right above #1 exhaust port. I don't know why. Its not even dripping where the timing covet meets the head either.

The way the plastic is skewing doesn't seem very promising or appealing.

My kids plastic toys are molded more square and true.
 

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