I just confirmed this with the dealer- If you want to upgrade the crappy LED music display you the screen part from the Buick Verano is the exact same as the MyLink Touchscreen as in the LTZ Cruze. That said- you will have to get the touchscreen bezel (about $37) and they will have to reprogram the unit to accept the new MyLink Touchscreen(about $80 as quoted by my dealer). I am not sure about the 2011's, but for my 2012 and up this works. The picture is the unit in question I picked up.
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Hi All,
I joined the board to be able to add some input to this thread - I don't have a Cruze, I have a 2012 Equinox that came with the touch screen, but not MyLink - I have done months of research into the MyLink radios, because GM says the MyLink radio cannot be swapped for the non-MyLink radio. I've been looking for some answers around MyLink and iPhones, and came across this thread.
First off, for the first generation of these radios, MyLink and IntelliLink are the same thing. MyLink is the Chevy brand name for the technology, IntelliLink is the brand name for GMC/Buick. Why they decided to have two different names, I have no idea. Now, there are two generations of MyLink/IntelliLink. The first generation was released in mid-2012 in the Equinox/Terrain, Verano, followed by the 2013, Regal, Lacrosse, Cruze, Malibu, etc. It includes voice recognition for bluetooth phone calls, navigating radio stations/XM, and navigating USB connected phones, iPhones, iPods, other MP3 players, and USB sticks, Pandora, Stitcher, and bluetooth streaming audio (A2DP). GM assigns a code to all the parts in a car, this is called an RPO code. This is different than the part number, and is usually used for optioning the vehicle. The first gen MyLink/IntelliLink has an RPO Code of UFU&UP9 and the radios are built by Panasonic, and I've read that the software in them is by QNX (owned by Blackberry). The second generation MyLink is in the Chevy Sonic/Spark, 2014 Impala, and I'm not sure on the upcoming Malibu. I don't know who makes these radios, but the software is different, and has the Apple Siri integration.
The non-MyLink radio (RPO code UFU) has the same connections on the back as the MyLink Radio (UFU&UP9) - the only difference hardware wise is the addition of a bluetooth antenna on the radio. The non-MyLink radios use the bluetooth contained in the OnStar module for phone calls, and it the radio communicates with the module through the GMLAN (think of a computer network, but inside your car, where all the computer modules talk to eachother). If you have another radio, like RPO code UYE, then bluetooth comes from a module called the PDIM, which in other threads here people have swapped out to add the bluetooth functionality. There are no cables coming in or out of the screen or radio for bluetooth.
I have a feeling that your 2012 Cruze has the radio with the RPO code UYE - this would be the same radio that was in the 2011-2012 Regal. You can check the RPO code by either looking at the sticker on the radio, or, there is a sticker in your glove box that has all the RPO codes - from my experience the audio/electronics related RPO codes usually start with U. Look for UFU or UYE and let me know which one you have. I believe the LTZ trim has UFU&UP9, but the lower trims have a different RPO. Do you have a picture of the back of your radio, or did you get a good look at it? Did it only have one big black square connector, and a coax connector? On mine, the blue connection between the touch screen goes to a blue connection on the radio and is used for the touchscreen interface. The UPU and UPU&UP9 radios have about 9 connectors on the back of them.
To get around the issue with your dealer and diagrams, you can get them yourself. GM sells access to the same web-based system the mechanics use in GM dealerships - it is $20 for a 3 day subscription. The URL is www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/subscribehome You can go there and pull up the service manuals for all GM vehicles or punch in your VIN # and get it that way too. It will show you all the wiring diagrams, disassembly instructions, etc. This way you can figure out the pinouts of your connections in your car, the pinouts on the new parts (like screen, radio, etc.) see if they match, etc. I was able to determine for my Equinox at least, that the wiring system was exactly the same between the non-MyLink and MyLink radios, and all the pinouts were the same, etc.
Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll try my best to help!
I joined the board to be able to add some input to this thread - I don't have a Cruze, I have a 2012 Equinox that came with the touch screen, but not MyLink - I have done months of research into the MyLink radios, because GM says the MyLink radio cannot be swapped for the non-MyLink radio. I've been looking for some answers around MyLink and iPhones, and came across this thread.
First off, for the first generation of these radios, MyLink and IntelliLink are the same thing. MyLink is the Chevy brand name for the technology, IntelliLink is the brand name for GMC/Buick. Why they decided to have two different names, I have no idea. Now, there are two generations of MyLink/IntelliLink. The first generation was released in mid-2012 in the Equinox/Terrain, Verano, followed by the 2013, Regal, Lacrosse, Cruze, Malibu, etc. It includes voice recognition for bluetooth phone calls, navigating radio stations/XM, and navigating USB connected phones, iPhones, iPods, other MP3 players, and USB sticks, Pandora, Stitcher, and bluetooth streaming audio (A2DP). GM assigns a code to all the parts in a car, this is called an RPO code. This is different than the part number, and is usually used for optioning the vehicle. The first gen MyLink/IntelliLink has an RPO Code of UFU&UP9 and the radios are built by Panasonic, and I've read that the software in them is by QNX (owned by Blackberry). The second generation MyLink is in the Chevy Sonic/Spark, 2014 Impala, and I'm not sure on the upcoming Malibu. I don't know who makes these radios, but the software is different, and has the Apple Siri integration.
The non-MyLink radio (RPO code UFU) has the same connections on the back as the MyLink Radio (UFU&UP9) - the only difference hardware wise is the addition of a bluetooth antenna on the radio. The non-MyLink radios use the bluetooth contained in the OnStar module for phone calls, and it the radio communicates with the module through the GMLAN (think of a computer network, but inside your car, where all the computer modules talk to eachother). If you have another radio, like RPO code UYE, then bluetooth comes from a module called the PDIM, which in other threads here people have swapped out to add the bluetooth functionality. There are no cables coming in or out of the screen or radio for bluetooth.
I have a feeling that your 2012 Cruze has the radio with the RPO code UYE - this would be the same radio that was in the 2011-2012 Regal. You can check the RPO code by either looking at the sticker on the radio, or, there is a sticker in your glove box that has all the RPO codes - from my experience the audio/electronics related RPO codes usually start with U. Look for UFU or UYE and let me know which one you have. I believe the LTZ trim has UFU&UP9, but the lower trims have a different RPO. Do you have a picture of the back of your radio, or did you get a good look at it? Did it only have one big black square connector, and a coax connector? On mine, the blue connection between the touch screen goes to a blue connection on the radio and is used for the touchscreen interface. The UPU and UPU&UP9 radios have about 9 connectors on the back of them.
To get around the issue with your dealer and diagrams, you can get them yourself. GM sells access to the same web-based system the mechanics use in GM dealerships - it is $20 for a 3 day subscription. The URL is www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/subscribehome You can go there and pull up the service manuals for all GM vehicles or punch in your VIN # and get it that way too. It will show you all the wiring diagrams, disassembly instructions, etc. This way you can figure out the pinouts of your connections in your car, the pinouts on the new parts (like screen, radio, etc.) see if they match, etc. I was able to determine for my Equinox at least, that the wiring system was exactly the same between the non-MyLink and MyLink radios, and all the pinouts were the same, etc.
Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll try my best to help!
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Great Info!
Yes... I did a little research over the past couple of days and we do have the RPO UYE radio. The Blue plug outlet on the color screen posted by the creator of this topic is a connector between the display and the actual radio so it would be required. So it look like we would need the actual radio (UFU UP9) and the color display (both can be had on ebay for under $300.00)
I found a site that has been able to retrofit Mylink into older Camaros and Traverses without Mylink:
Chevrolet Navigation System - Chevy Factory Integrated in DashNavi
They show a youtube video requiring some wiring required but make it look fairly easy.....
Our setup is similar if not identical to the Camaro (UYE) as we were able to switch our cruze PDIMs to the Camaro's so we could stream audio. I would bet that it wouldn't be that much different to use the Camaro setup with our Cruze's (minus the faceplate)
Too bad XtremeRevolution isnt really into this as I think out of all of us he would be the quickest to figure out the wiring setup. I almost want to contact this MVI webpage and see if they would be willing to try the retro on the Cruze. Right now all they sell is the UNAVI alternative.
Yes... I did a little research over the past couple of days and we do have the RPO UYE radio. The Blue plug outlet on the color screen posted by the creator of this topic is a connector between the display and the actual radio so it would be required. So it look like we would need the actual radio (UFU UP9) and the color display (both can be had on ebay for under $300.00)
I found a site that has been able to retrofit Mylink into older Camaros and Traverses without Mylink:
Chevrolet Navigation System - Chevy Factory Integrated in DashNavi
They show a youtube video requiring some wiring required but make it look fairly easy.....
Our setup is similar if not identical to the Camaro (UYE) as we were able to switch our cruze PDIMs to the Camaro's so we could stream audio. I would bet that it wouldn't be that much different to use the Camaro setup with our Cruze's (minus the faceplate)
Too bad XtremeRevolution isnt really into this as I think out of all of us he would be the quickest to figure out the wiring setup. I almost want to contact this MVI webpage and see if they would be willing to try the retro on the Cruze. Right now all they sell is the UNAVI alternative.
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The back of the Eco radio only had one black square connection. The display unit has a blue square connection on the back. It looks like I needed to upgrade the receiver, but the one that goes with that first generation MyLink had the 9 connections you are taking about. Not sure where all the other wires were going to.
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Here is the UFU Radio/Reciever:
View attachment 35266
We have 3 out of the 6 connections already established on our Cruze. We know the Blue connector goes to the touch screen, and themini USB s for the backup camera. That leaves the small black multi connector.
Edit: I think the picture you posted for the Mylink reciever is for navigation as well.
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I suspect that since this unit has it's own internal Bluetooth unit (according to Craiguar, thanks)- that the other connection is to that? If that is the case, you would take the two connections to the A2DP and connect them to the back of this unit.
http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/57-how-library/5833-diy-bluetooth-a2dp-bluetooth-audio-streaming.html
http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/57-how-library/5833-diy-bluetooth-a2dp-bluetooth-audio-streaming.html
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Good Eye! I suspect your right. If that's true then you won't need to update your PDIM. All you'll need is the receiver and the touchscreen with bracket! Your half way there - willing to try?
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My ego is already invested into this...so I'll order the missing pieces tomorrow.
Good Eye! I suspect your right. If that's true then you won't need to update your PDIM. All you'll need is the receiver and the touchscreen with bracket! Your half way there - willing to try?
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Can anyone confirm this part number as the blue cable that runs from the receiver to the display unit: 20781772. I have a bunch of black and white diagrams which aren't a whole lot of help. This is closest one I can find as our candidate.
Hi all, sorry I was away for a couple days.
UFU will get you the radio unit you want (it won't have MyLink though unless it explicitly says UFU&UP9) that will connect to the touch screen.
There's a person over on the Buick Forums that swapped out his radio (RPO UWG) with UWS (basically like the UFU but with navigation) and added the colour touch screen.
I found the post and found it extremely useful for me as he did all the work to identify what all the connectors on the back and he did some custom wiring to get the control panel connected to the screen. This might help you out. I believe the Buick he has also has the PDIM you guys would have too.
Here's the link to the thread on Buick Forums: HOW-TO: Install factory navigation in base radio Lacrosse - Buick Forums
UFU will get you the radio unit you want (it won't have MyLink though unless it explicitly says UFU&UP9) that will connect to the touch screen.
There's a person over on the Buick Forums that swapped out his radio (RPO UWG) with UWS (basically like the UFU but with navigation) and added the colour touch screen.
I found the post and found it extremely useful for me as he did all the work to identify what all the connectors on the back and he did some custom wiring to get the control panel connected to the screen. This might help you out. I believe the Buick he has also has the PDIM you guys would have too.
Here's the link to the thread on Buick Forums: HOW-TO: Install factory navigation in base radio Lacrosse - Buick Forums
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Thanks for the link. This does further confirm my suspicions of how this unit works.
The big question on our unit is the same they are dealing with, namely the TWIMAX cable. We will find out if I hit the part number correctly from the diagrams this time on Tuesday when it arrives.
The big question on our unit is the same they are dealing with, namely the TWIMAX cable. We will find out if I hit the part number correctly from the diagrams this time on Tuesday when it arrives.
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I believe the radio is the same. If you hang tight till next week, we will have a better idea if this experiment works or not.
Ditto. I can't wait. Really getting sick of the stock infotainment system.
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Sweet. The cable u ordered the correct one?
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