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Guys, something worth checking out if you're having a persistent p0171 lean code despite replacing multiple sensors + PCV kit install. I had this same issue on mine. After using the PCV fix kit v3.4, the code still showed up. What it ended up being was the junction btwn the intake manifold's PCV exit port (the one in the center pointing straight up) and the female connector that clips on. The gasket/o-ring retained within the latter very easily falls out, and the kit online only sells the retaining ring and NOT the gasket...weird. But you can buy an O-ring kit at any auto parts store and put several between the two, or go w/a gasket maker, and after re-connecting the code's gone away. The thing that gave it away was the hissing sound. The online simpler forums talk about listening for "hissing" in the valve cover's vacuum valve - which we all know actually isn't the PCV valve - but they're right that at idle your intake manifold AND crankcase will pull a vacuum. I ended up hearing this same sssss coming from the intake manifold pcv outlet/connector junction, and knew I'd found it. If this junction doesn't end up being the root of your problem, I suggest the following:
  • Turn your engine on in park
  • Take a tissue, or use your ears if you've got good hearing, and follow the intake line from the MAF near the air filter through the system all the way to the manifold. Wave the tissue near the joints and see if it gets "pulled" into the system anywhere to signal vacuum. Listen for the hiss.
  • Also do this to the PCV lines - turbo, manifold, evap lines if you've used the replacement kit - and look for the same.
Patch any leaks you find and the code should go away. This should be your FIRST diagnostic step before replacing any sensors, because your engine running super rich when it doesn't have to will actually wear down your O2/catalytic/etc and if you start replacing them before tracking down the leak it's not worth it.
 
Good tip!

A couple of thoughts. The P0171 code is for a lean condition.. Which is what you get if you have if you have a vacuum leak at idle. You implied it was running super rich in your last paragraph.

The other thing we turbo owners should be doing periodically is performing a boost leak check. You can make a tester for about $10 and as the engine is not running when you test the leak will be obvious.

You can also use the same tester to check for cooling system leaks.. and we all know how these Cruzes just LOVE to leak coolant..:)
 
Thanks for making this post. It reminded me that I need to start stocking the o-rings also. I believe it's 22mm OD and 2.6mm thickness. I'll have to find some that match the spec and keep them in stock for this purpose. It's usually just the plastic retaining ring that gets lost but I've seen the o-rings go missing too.
 
Guys, something worth checking out if you're having a persistent p0171 lean code despite replacing multiple sensors + PCV kit install. I had this same issue on mine. After using the PCV fix kit v3.4, the code still showed up. What it ended up being was the junction btwn the intake manifold's PCV exit port (the one in the center pointing straight up) and the female connector that clips on. The gasket/o-ring retained within the latter very easily falls out, and the kit online only sells the retaining ring and NOT the gasket...weird. But you can buy an O-ring kit at any auto parts store and put several between the two, or go w/a gasket maker, and after re-connecting the code's gone away. The thing that gave it away was the hissing sound. The online simpler forums talk about listening for "hissing" in the valve cover's vacuum valve - which we all know actually isn't the PCV valve - but they're right that at idle your intake manifold AND crankcase will pull a vacuum. I ended up hearing this same sssss coming from the intake manifold pcv outlet/connector junction, and knew I'd found it. If this junction doesn't end up being the root of your problem, I suggest the following:
  • Turn your engine on in park
  • Take a tissue, or use your ears if you've got good hearing, and follow the intake line from the MAF near the air filter through the system all the way to the manifold. Wave the tissue near the joints and see if it gets "pulled" into the system anywhere to signal vacuum. Listen for the hiss.
  • Also do this to the PCV lines - turbo, manifold, evap lines if you've used the replacement kit - and look for the same.
Patch any leaks you find and the code should go away. This should be your FIRST diagnostic step before replacing any sensors, because your engine running super rich when it doesn't have to will actually wear down your O2/catalytic/etc and if you start replacing them before tracking down the leak it's not worth it.
I have this P0171 code now after installing the Cruze kit on my 2015 Buick Encore and changing the valve cover. Is the next step to replace the catalytic converter or O2 sensor? It still has the P0171 code (fuel trim lean). Or is the Cruze kit altering my EVAP solenoid since I had to cut it apart and alter it for the Cruze kit? I've changed that mot too long ago and fixed that issue temporarily. Before this happened, I would drive around sixty miles an hour and occasionally get a humming noise from under the car at 2000 RPMs. I'm assuming that's a clogged catalytic converter that may have caused all of this? 2015 buick encore with 107,000 miles on it. I've also tried the paper trick and cannot find any leaks.
 
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