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Ran over a large truck tire fragment, what damage to look for?

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I hit a large chunk of truck tire on the highway today, nothing I could do, the guy in front of me swerved last minute to avoid it but I had someone in either lane beside me so I had no choice but to hit it dead on. It damaged my spoiler and bottom of the grille which really stinks, I can't even pop it back into place. Going to take it to a body shop but the biggest concern I have now is potential damage under the car since I ran over it ... my guess would be it broke up or flipped when my spoiler hit it and was kind of flat for the rest of the runover because there are barely any scuffs anywhere under the car. What else should I look for? Is there any serious protection of the oil pan or anything or is it just that kind of cardboardy cover that I assume is for aerodynamics? I'm going to have an actual shop look at it Monday but I was hoping to jack it up and look myself yesterday just because it's really bothering me, plus I want to know if I can drive it to the body shop. I drove it about 8 miles home after the incident, drove fine, no lights, no leaks, or anything. Only thing out of sorts I can see underneath is the fastener in the photo ... it looks like it holds the cover panels together but it's loose and just wobbling there.

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FWIW, once heard this from an insurance agent...no claim as to veracity:

If you strike an object sitting in your lane, there’s no claim. If the object you struck moved into your lane from either side you’re covered.

Oh come on, that's silly? A Road Hazard causing damage to your insured property doesn't have to exhibit movement to be covered under your Collision or Comprehensive policy.

I hit a large chunk of truck tire on the highway today, nothing I could do, the guy in front of me swerved last minute to avoid it but I had someone in either lane beside me so I had no choice but to hit it dead on. It damaged my spoiler and bottom of the grille which really stinks, I can't even pop it back into place. Going to take it to a body shop but the biggest concern I have now is potential damage under the car since I ran over it ... my guess would be it broke up or flipped when my spoiler hit it and was kind of flat for the rest of the runover because there are barely any scuffs anywhere under the car. What else should I look for? Is there any serious protection of the oil pan or anything or is it just that kind of cardboardy cover that I assume is for aerodynamics? I'm going to have an actual shop look at it Monday but I was hoping to jack it up and look myself yesterday just because it's really bothering me, plus I want to know if I can drive it to the body shop. I drove it about 8 miles home after the incident, drove fine, no lights, no leaks, or anything. Only thing out of sorts I can see underneath is the fastener in the photo ... it looks like it holds the cover panels together but it's loose and just wobbling there.
Most of the things that end up in the road are from passenger vehicles, Hill says, but sometimes the roadway junk comes from commercial trucks, such as tire treads from big rigs. Some commercial truck owners retread tires instead of replacing them, and occasionally the new treads separate from the tires. Often the truck driver doesn't realize what's happened until later. With 18 wheels, the loss of tread on one isn't noticeable while driving.
The pieces of tread look harmless, but the rubber is imbedded with metal.
"They're affectionately referred to as 'gators' because if you try to grab one, you'll get cut up," Hill says.
Kristin Luehrs, a traffic reporter for WTVR CBS Channel 6 in Richmond, Va., tells of one driver whose pickup was hit by a whole wheel -- not just the tread -- that flew off a big rig. The wheel hit the hood and smashed the windshield. Amazingly, the pickup driver was able to pull off the road unscathed.
"He looked like the fear of God was put in him," Luehrs says.
[h=2]How insurance works[/h]Car insurance will come to the rescue in such instances. If your vehicle is damaged from running into or running over an object in the road, then your collision coverage will pay for repairs, says Insure.com consumer analyst Penny Gusner. If the object flies through the air and hits your car, then your comprehensive coverage will come into play. You pay a deductible when you make a collision or comprehensive claim. Personal injury protection or medical payments would pay for treatment of injuries.
You might be able to make a claim against another driver's liability insurance if the accident was the result of someone failing to secure a load.
"It's one reason to have a dash cam," Gusner says.
The camera would capture the accident and the license plate number of the car or truck that lost the object.
Regardless, Gusner advises making a police report, which will help establish the facts for the insurance claim.
Drivers who carry items in or atop their cars are required by law in most states to secure them properly; penalties range from $50 under littering statutes in a few states to as much as $5,000 in Washington - plus jail time - if another person is injured.
Tickets for failing to secure a load typically do not appear on a driver's motor vehicle record and thus do not affect car insurance rates.
[h=2]https://www.insurance.com/auto-insurance/claims/things-in-the-road-mattresses-ladders-bowling-balls.html[/h]
Whatever the damage, if the cost of repairs is minimal, it might not be worth filing a claim with your auto insurance provider, either because it doesn’t reach your deductible amount or is barely above it.


I’d recommend that you pay out-of-pocket for your minor repairs and leave car insurance claims for expensive damage you can’t afford to fix on your own.


While comprehensive claims don’t typically raise your rates, collision claims can, and either type of claim may get you surcharged by your insurer if you have accumulated several claims (of any type) within a short period of time.

https://www.carinsurance.com/kb/road-debris-insurance-claim

Can you hold the truck driver responsible for this tire tread hitting your car or causing a truck accident? Was it the driver’s fault, or simply bad luck? After all, you cannot control when you get flat tires—can you really expect more from truck drivers?
You absolutely can (and should) expect more from these experienced commercial drivers. Truck drivers are held to a higher standard than other drivers on the road, which means that they must be aware of their driving performance and rig conditions at all times, including:

  • Proper rate of speed
  • Proper tire maintenance and inflation
  • Overloaded/overweight trailer
By following these guidelines, tires—both in original condition and retreaded tires—can remain safe for both the truck driver and the other drivers on the road.

https://www.chrishudsonlaw.com/faqs/truck-accidents-involving-tire-tread-debris.cfm
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Happened to me in 2016 with my TDI.

A semi tire took out my condenser, lower spoiler, skid plate, grille and cracked the bumper while doing 85 mph on the grapevine.
I hit a gator in my 2009 TDI. My fuel gauge immediately went to empty and I was sure I'd ruptured the fuel tank or broken a fuel line, but the car kept running like nothing happened. I was only a mile or two from my exit and was planning to fuel-up at that exit anyway, so I got to the gas station and filled up. No fuel leaks, so I kept driving. Gauge didn't come all the way up to full so I figured I'd just borked the sending unit.

So... the sending unit is integrated into the fuel pump. I drove for a week before it died. The fuel pump was shattered. It's amazing that it continued running at all.
As an experienced truck driver. I'll have to disagree with that article.

Drivers DOOOOO know when they lose their tread. Think. Shotgun sound.

As for Tire Maint. All the proper inflation in the world won't keep the glue from breaking apart in the summer heat. ON recaps. Recaps could also blow if the sidewalls are old or not in the best shape.
Virgin tires can run pretty low before they blow. IF they blow.

Recaps are pretty safe in the winter. For the most part.
Virgins are recommended in the summer but some companies are just too darned cheap and think it's smarter to buy 10 recaps over buying 1 virgin. Recaps only save a few dollars over virgins per tire but don't last. So in the long run they end up costing more money.
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Thanks, those ramps are awesome! ... and the prices aren't that bad considering I need an extra set of ramps anyway. I'll try not to worry too much. I know I should at least wait until I have the full info on damage, insurance, etc. before I start worrying, but it's so hard ... chronic overthinker.
I use to have a RV and I had these plastic things I used to level my RV at a campsite, would just pull up on them and you could stack them, that’s what I use when I change my oil, then no jack in the way, they store easily in a bag. I don’t think they are very expensive. Obviously anytime the car is elevated the emergency brake and something to chalk the rear wheel should be used.
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Can you hold the truck driver responsible for this tire tread hitting your car or causing a truck accident? Was it the driver’s fault, or simply bad luck? After all, you cannot control when you get flat tires—can you really expect more from truck drivers?
You absolutely can (and should) expect more from these experienced commercial drivers. Truck drivers are held to a higher standard than other drivers on the road, which means that they must be aware of their driving performance and rig conditions at all times, including:

  • Proper rate of speed
  • Proper tire maintenance and inflation
  • Overloaded/overweight trailer
By following these guidelines, tires—both in original condition and retreaded tires—can remain safe for both the truck driver and the other drivers on the road.

https://www.chrishudsonlaw.com/faqs/truck-accidents-involving-tire-tread-debris.cfm
As an experienced truck driver. I'll have to disagree with that article.

Drivers DOOOOO know when they lose their tread. Think. Shotgun sound.

As for Tire Maint. All the proper inflation in the world won't keep the glue from breaking apart in the summer heat. ON recaps. Recaps could also blow if the sidewalls are old or not in the best shape.
Virgin tires can run pretty low before they blow. IF they blow.

Recaps are pretty safe in the winter. For the most part.
Virgins are recommended in the summer but some companies are just too darned cheap and think it's smarter to buy 10 recaps over buying 1 virgin. Recaps only save a few dollars over virgins per tire but don't last. So in the long run they end up costing more money.

I agree and that is why I included the last article
The dealer had a look at it today and the good news is everything underneath looks good ... just a couple scuff marks and the one loose screw that holds the access panel in, which we got back in place. I will go to the body shop they recommended tomorrow for an estimate on the spoiler and lower grille. It doesn't look like the damage goes all the way back to the active grille shutters and they said I'd have a code if they were damaged. So I'm hoping it won't be as much as I fear to fix the cosmetic damage. But at least I was lucky once it got past the front of the car.
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Oh come on, that's silly? A Road Hazard causing damage to your insured property doesn't have to exhibit movement to be covered under your Collision or Comprehensive policy.
Hitting any stationary object is considered a collision and covered under you collision insurance if you have it, if it is in motion and not a vehicle its considered a "missile" in insurance terms and comprehensive. Many people have comprehensive and not collision to save money, which might be why an agent said no claim.

Otherwise speaking, and damage done to your vehicle can usually be considered covered under auto insurance if you carry both collision and comp. There are loopholes, typically mold/fungal related damages are not covered. Oddly enough detonating a nuclear device (intentionally or unintentionally) would not be covered.

Hope that clears it up a bit.
You only have to worry about gators in the summer time. Companies that haven't realized the smarter side finances yet. Will still use recap tires. They only save a few dollars but in the end actually cost more because they blow quite often. Hot summer roads are hard on recap tires. Causing glue to fail causing an air leak to the point pressure gets low enough that the pressure heats up and blows the tire.

Gators usually aren't an issue in the winter.

This year. I bet has set a record. Can't drive on the freeway anywhere without seeing blown up rubber.
Those recapped tires have a speed limit of 60 MPH I believe. In reality trucks equipped with them run 80+ MPH all day long and in warm weather the tires just fall apart. I bet none of those trucks use recapped tires on the tractor front wheels.
Some time ago my brother ran over big tire carcass with his Nissan Maxima and this threw the front end way out of alignment. So I would recommend checking the alignment as well.

I am also sick and tired of people out there who cannot secure their load properly. Today I watched a guy in a Nissan pickup full of PVC long pipes lose half of his load in a turn and he did not even notice and kept going. Fortunately, the loose pipes tumbled to the roadside, or else a few of us would have had no choice but to run over them.
Those recapped tires have a speed limit of 60 MPH I believe. In reality trucks equipped with them run 80+ MPH all day long and in warm weather the tires just fall apart. I bet none of those trucks use recapped tires on the tractor front wheels.
No. They don't have a 60 mph limit. They blow because of the hot summer sun on the ground and the fact they don't hold air sometimes. They get low enough and BOOM. Drivers don't take the time to thump their tires. And Most companies are too cheap to buy new. For whatever reason it's cheaper to keep buying recaps every week then virgins which will last a year or more.

And it's illegal to have recapped steers. Not a shop in the country will install recaps on steers.
As an experienced truck driver. I'll have to disagree with that article.

Drivers DOOOOO know when they lose their tread. Think. Shotgun sound.

As for Tire Maint. All the proper inflation in the world won't keep the glue from breaking apart in the summer heat. ON recaps. Recaps could also blow if the sidewalls are old or not in the best shape.
Virgin tires can run pretty low before they blow. IF they blow.

Recaps are pretty safe in the winter. For the most part.
Virgins are recommended in the summer but some companies are just too darned cheap and think it's smarter to buy 10 recaps over buying 1 virgin. Recaps only save a few dollars over virgins per tire but don't last. So in the long run they end up costing more money.
crazy talk

ive had tires that were recapped 5x

thats called savings.
Those recapped tires have a speed limit of 60 MPH I believe. In reality trucks equipped with them run 80+ MPH all day long and in warm weather the tires just fall apart. I bet none of those trucks use recapped tires on the tractor front wheels.
you believe wrong

theres not a 60mph limit on recaps

and yes recaps are used on steer tires
No. They don't have a 60 mph limit. They blow because of the hot summer sun on the ground and the fact they don't hold air sometimes. They get low enough and BOOM. Drivers don't take the time to thump their tires. And Most companies are too cheap to buy new. For whatever reason it's cheaper to keep buying recaps every week then virgins which will last a year or more.

And it's illegal to have recapped steers. Not a shop in the country will install recaps on steers.
wrong again

not illegal to recap steers
Excerpts taken from: https://www.todaystrucking.com/retread-tires-faq/



[FONT=&quot]Q. Once the tread design is worn off the radial truck tire casing with a maximum 55 mph rating, is it legal to operate it at a higher speed after it has been retreaded with light, high speed tread designs?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A. I do not know of any law that addresses this, but it is not a good idea. The heavy-duty casing would likely become overheated and fail, if driven at high speeds.[/FONT]
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Q. How old a tire can be and still be retreaded or repaired.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]A. There is no simple answer to you question, as in most cases a tire is rejected for retreading or repairing not because of its age, but because of its condition. Many tires may be unacceptable for
retreading when they are only a year old, while others may be perfectly acceptable for retreading when they are close to 10 years old. It all depends on how well the tire is maintained and how and where the tire is used. Some environmental and operating conditions can destroy even the
best new tires very quickly.

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[FONT=&quot]Q. Can regrooved tires be used on the steer axle of a dump truck?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A. Yes, by law. The only type of vehicle with restrictions on steer tires is a bus. A bus cannot be operated with regrooved or retreaded tires on the front axle, but other vehicles can. However, TRIB does NOT recommend the use of regrooved tires on steer axle of any vehicle.

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[FONT=&quot]Q. How many times can a steel radial truck tire be retreaded?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A. That depends on the condition of the tire and how much damage it has accumulated. Long haul, high-speed operations usually retread their tires two or three times. While fleets, such as garbage hauler and other local service operations that wear tires out very quickly,
can sometimes retread their tires five or more times if they are properly maintained.

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crazy talk

ive had tires that were recapped 5x

thats called savings.
I didn't say anything about number of times a tire could be recapped. And it's highly unlikely you went in and waited for however long it takes to recap and throw tire back on. Probably over a day.

And NO. Recaps are not used on steers. They're illegal and recaps are generally a traction type tread.
I'd like to see the federal regulation for commercial vehicles. Not a standard regulation for all vehicles.
Excerpts taken from: https://www.todaystrucking.com/retread-tires-faq/



[FONT="][B]Q. Once the tread design is worn off the radial truck tire casing with a maximum 55 mph rating, is it legal to operate it at a higher speed after it has been retreaded with light, high speed tread designs?[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT="]A. I do not know of any law that addresses this, but it is not a good idea. The heavy-duty casing would likely become overheated and fail, if driven at high speeds.[/FONT]

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[B]Q.[/B][B] How old a tire can be and still be retreaded or repaired.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT="]A. There is no simple answer to you question, as in most cases a tire is rejected for retreading or repairing not because of its age, but because of its condition. Many tires may be unacceptable for
retreading when they are only a year old, while others may be perfectly acceptable for retreading when they are close to 10 years old. It all depends on how well the tire is maintained and how and where the tire is used. Some environmental and operating conditions can destroy even the
best new tires very quickly.

[/FONT]

[FONT="][B]Q. Can regrooved tires be used on the steer axle of a dump truck?[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT="]A. Yes, by law. The only type of vehicle with restrictions on steer tires is a bus. A bus cannot be operated with regrooved or retreaded tires on the front axle, but other vehicles can. However, TRIB does NOT recommend the use of regrooved tires on steer axle of any vehicle.

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[FONT="][B]Q. How many times can a steel radial truck tire be retreaded?[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT="]A. That depends on the condition of the tire and how much damage it has accumulated. Long haul, high-speed operations usually retread their tires two or three times. While fleets, such as garbage hauler and other local service operations that wear tires out very quickly,
can sometimes retread their tires five or more times if they are properly maintained.

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you guys just like being wrong.

different tires have different speed ratings, just like a cruze.

vocational/short haul tires have different demands on them, some of them have lower speed ratings

the speed rating is from the casing and that speed rating is there when the tire is new and still there when recapped.

buy a highway tire with a 75mph speed rating, recap it, its still a 75 mph speed rated tire

recapping the tire doesnt change the speed rating.
I didn't say anything about number of times a tire could be recapped. And it's highly unlikely you went in and waited for however long it takes to recap and throw tire back on. Probably over a day.

And NO. Recaps are not used on steers. They're illegal and recaps are generally a traction type tread.
you said its cheaper to buy new

no its not

yes, ive been nowhere near a recapping facililty...but when i had a blowout changed in utah, the carcass had the stamps/brands inside it from each time it was recapped.

and yes recaps are used on steers and its LEGAL

and no theyre not generally used with traction tread, theyre used with w/e tread the customer desires.

we take our drives, recap them as trailer tires because we are heavy haul, theres lots of scrubbing, and a drive tire has the lateral strength for that, throw a trailer tread on it cuz we dont need traction from it

when i was straight highway, the company recapped the drives to use as drives.
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I'd like to see the federal regulation for commercial vehicles. Not a standard regulation for all vehicles.
youre on the internet, look it up for yourself.
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