I've had my Cruze for a while now and I noticed everytime I change the oil and oil filter it only takes a little less then 4 quarts of oil to fill it up when the owners manual calls for 4 and a quarter quarts of oil. I'm sure it's not a big deal and my questions rather pointless but I figured I'd make a post and see if other members are experiencing this, or if it's just me. When I change the oil I make sure the cars level, and I also make sure the oil filler cap is open along with the oil filter chamber to allow air to enter to help drain so I'm pretty sure all the oil is escaping the engine when I drain it. Any thoughts?
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I've had my Cruze for a while now and I noticed everytime I change the oil and oil filter it only takes a little less then 4 quarts of oil to fill it up when the owners manual calls for 4 and a quarter quarts of oil. I'm sure it's not a big deal and my questions rather pointless but I figured I'd make a post and see if other members are experiencing this, or if it's just me. When I change the oil I make sure the cars level, and I also make sure the oil filler cap is open along with the oil filter chamber to allow air to enter to help drain so I'm pretty sure all the oil is escaping the engine when I drain it. Any thoughts?
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I ran the engine for a few minutes after the oil change to circulate it, then waited about 20 min to let the oil drain into the oil pan then checked the level.
I changed the filter and cleaned the oil filter housing/canister so that should have allowed me to put the most amount of new oil in as possible so that isn't it.
This isn't my first time changing this cars oil, everytime I change it I come up short of what the manual says the car takes, I'm just curious if other people experienced this too.
I changed the filter and cleaned the oil filter housing/canister so that should have allowed me to put the most amount of new oil in as possible so that isn't it.
This isn't my first time changing this cars oil, everytime I change it I come up short of what the manual says the car takes, I'm just curious if other people experienced this too.
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All I know is that at the dealership - I got some back (1/2 qt?) in my 5-qt jug of Mobil1 that I gave them for an oil change, but "they needed all 5 qts" when I gave them a 5-qt jug of Mobil1 Extended Performance during my next oil change. So it depends on the technician, and whether he needs to take my jug of synthetic oil home with him. :wink:
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Been there.
I've had a similar experience with my 1.8 NA Cruze. Put in what the owner's manual calls for and you're WAY overfilled. I thought maybe it was the dipstick, but on the initial oil change less than 4 quarts came out and that was the factory fill! So I think the spec in the owner's manual is wrong at least on the 1.8 engine. Try and tell that to GM. They don't listen.
Assuming that if you do overfill the 1.8 with as much as (if not more than) 1 quart of oil, what does this do in regards oil foaming and loss of lubrication?
I've had a similar experience with my 1.8 NA Cruze. Put in what the owner's manual calls for and you're WAY overfilled. I thought maybe it was the dipstick, but on the initial oil change less than 4 quarts came out and that was the factory fill! So I think the spec in the owner's manual is wrong at least on the 1.8 engine. Try and tell that to GM. They don't listen.
Assuming that if you do overfill the 1.8 with as much as (if not more than) 1 quart of oil, what does this do in regards oil foaming and loss of lubrication?
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Oh, ok. I thought it was just me having this issue. Thanks for the replies.
Interested in hearing some thoughts on this as well, although I have the 1.4L Turbo.
I know for certain other engines, overfilling can lead to issues with the PCV being able to equalize crank case pressure. Can't imagine that would bode well for a turbo engine.
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The trouble with changing oil is that we simply can not remove every drop of the oil. I did an oil change on a vehicle once and gave it two hours to drain. It was still dripping oil when I put the plug back in. If we could get inside and wipe it all out with a rag, then we could put in the full amount called for.
A vehicle mounted generator that I have calls for one quart of oil. I learned that three cups of fresh is it or the thing would be overfilled. So having a cup of oil still inside or Cruze engines goes along with that.
A vehicle mounted generator that I have calls for one quart of oil. I learned that three cups of fresh is it or the thing would be overfilled. So having a cup of oil still inside or Cruze engines goes along with that.
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I've owned a lot of cars and trucks in my time and I have NEVER seen such an apparent discrepency in what the owner's manual calls for and what apparently is needed to fill the crankcase. (In this case a lot less oil). I just changed the oil today in my 1.8. I put in four quarts of 0W-30 Mobil 1. This is nearly a quart less than what the manual called for--and the dipstick still shows an overfill!
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LUJ (1.4T) 4.25quarts, LUW (1.8) 4.75quarts
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...something everybody forgets is that new, fresh oil, right out of the container is COLD, while oil in a running engine is HOT...and heat makes the oil expand in volume. That's why it's better to check HOT/warm oil rather than COLD oil levels.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but that's the complete opposite of the correct procedure. Oil capacity is designed to be checked on cold engines. Checking cold, allows oil time to drain back and guarantees no thermal expansion. Engine oil dipstick readings are designed for cold fluid level readings.
...something everybody forgets is that new, fresh oil, right out of the container is COLD, while oil in a running engine is HOT...and heat makes the oil expand in volume. That's why it's better to check HOT/warm oil rather than COLD oil levels.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but that's the complete opposite of the correct procedure. Oil capacity is designed to be checked on cold engines. Checking cold, allows oil time to drain back and guarantees no thermal expansion. Engine oil dipstick readings are designed for cold fluid level readings.
Whatareyou, nuts!
That is the biggest bit of dumbass information one could put in writing, let alone post it for all to read!
A cold start causes no damage because residual oil is retained on all sliding surfaces and is restored in a moment at startup.
A runup with no oil causes the oil pump to air load and drives the residual oil off the sliding surfaces.
This results in a much longer dry start situation while the pump purges itself of air.
Folks like you, handing off that kind of information is why folks like me make lots o money.
However, I truly dislike making money as a result of 'I read it on the internet'
I'd remove this post, but I think it is a good testimony to stupidity..
To all readers, I strongly recommend you disregard this suggestion.
Thanks for getting my fur tangled up,
Rob
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I would recommend that you refrain from giving automotive advice. It is not your forte.
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Let me review the previous posts to see if this is troll or nah. This reminds me of the guy who couldn't get his drain plug off his skittle SRT-4 from dealership over tightening and revved with the filter off to get as much oil out as he could. SRT forums deleted the thread because too many outsiders signed up to call the guy out.
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Sooo about 4.20 qts of oil is the required amount.
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