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Andrei, I now my decision is debatable :) I can argue with you ant tell you that "other cars" are operating using this, or similar thermostat, for years without any issue. Talking about MPG, like I said, I didn't see any major difference yet, nor my friends. I may observe a change in the summer of for long trips. My idea was also to put a thermostat that opens at 195F as you said but I couldn't find any that fits! The existing thermostat is not just opening by temperature but also the ECM can "dictate" when to open, depending of the information it receives from other sensors. If you, or others, could find a thermostat that fits and opens around 195F, please let me know I would use that instead.. Until then, I'll keep monitoring the cars I changes and let you know if there is any major change during the next months.
Hello greeting I have done the same My 2012 Chevy cruise I feel like I get less mpg I'm looking for 195 myself have you found one
 
Hello greeting I have done the same My 2012 Chevy cruise I feel like I get less mpg I'm looking for 195 myself have you found one
Welcome Aboard!(y)

Don't forget to introduce yourself and your Cruze here.
 
The thermostat has come and now it's the right thing to do
I'm curious if the car is the same as the construction so I can put the element of 80 degrees
owns opel astra j from 2014 engine A14 net
 

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I have the thermostat. The internal parts look like the pictures posted. I have the cage out, no problem. Does the brass colored piece just pull out ? That's my guess since it has two O rings. Also two terminals that would be destroyed if twisted. I need help !!!!
 
Happy New Year one and all!

I find this entire thread to be extremely interesting and have read basically every post in it.
I replaced my '12's thermostat last year because the gasket was leaking rather badly and the housing appeared to be weeping through the plastic (as revealed using UV dye in the coolant).
For that reason I did not save the OEM housing and the new one is Brand-X aftermarket (not Dorman) so I have no option to try the core replacement as shown in this thread.
My unmodified thermostat runs at about 222-225F at idle or light loads, and all too often has reached 230-235F under heavier load conditions.
To me this is a completely insane situation that required attention.

Because the thermostat is electrically controlled to an extent by the ECU, it seemed to me that a purely electrical solution should be possible (I am an equipment design engineer).
Long story short, my test solution worked..!
Now it runs at 194-198F at low idle/cruising loads and at about 201-204F on the highway or when climbing hills.
So far, after dozens of warm up cycles and restarts, no DTCs, no issues of any kind, and no apparent hit to gas mileage that I have seen so far (or it is too small to notice).

Not wanting to hijack this mechanical solution thread, I am going to start a new thread showing what I ended up doing in case anyone else wants to try it.

Thanks to the OP for a great thread!!!
 
Happy New Year one and all!

I find this entire thread to be extremely interesting and have read basically every post in it.
I replaced my '12's thermostat last year because the gasket was leaking rather badly and the housing appeared to be weeping through the plastic (as revealed using UV dye in the coolant).
For that reason I did not save the OEM housing and the new one is Brand-X aftermarket (not Dorman) so I have no option to try the core replacement as shown in this thread.
My unmodified thermostat runs at about 222-225F at idle or light loads, and all too often has reached 230-235F under heavier load conditions.
To me this is a completely insane situation that required attention.

Because the thermostat is electrically controlled to an extent by the ECU, it seemed to me that a purely electrical solution should be possible (I am an equipment design engineer).
Long story short, my test solution worked..!
Now it runs at 194-198F at low idle/cruising loads and at about 201-204F on the highway or when climbing hills.
So far, after dozens of warm up cycles and restarts, no DTCs, no issues of any kind, and no apparent hit to gas mileage that I have seen so far (or it is too small to notice).

Not wanting to hijack this mechanical solution thread, I am going to start a new thread showing what I ended up doing in case anyone else wants to try it.

Thanks to the OP for a great thread!!!
Place a link to that thread here and consider linking this thread in yours.
 
Done. 😁
A link to this thread is located at the top of my thread and here is a link to mine-
 
Do you think that if we adjust the new 80 degree thermostat by 2mm, it will open later ... around 90😀?
It would make little or no difference to the opening temperature of an 80 degree thermostat because the thermostat is driven by a wax motor element.
Shortening the rod will not change the temperature at which the wax melts and expands so it will not change when the pin begins to move.
The only thing this will definitely do would be to reduce the maximum opening distance of the regulating valve, so personally I wouldn't do it.
:)

By the way, the electronic control I added to mine, which is now using a voltage regulator set to 10.0 volts, is working perfectly.
It regulates the engine temperaure at 198-203F under pretty much any driving conditions.
So far no DTCs, no delays to warmup, no noticeable hit to gas mileage, nothing at all bad.
Oh, and the (mostly) useless dashboard temperature gauge is running very slightly to the left of the tick mark to the left of bottom center, very close to where it was indicating at 220-225F.
A waste of a gauge...
 
Yes, I thought that just as the Russians added the 2.5mm pill to the original thermostat to open earlier, so I wanted to shorten the rod to open later.
All in all, I don't know how reliable the thermostat heater is to be supplied all the time


Da ,,,, ma gandeam ca asa cum rușii au adaugat pastila de 2,5 mm la termostatul original pentru a deschide mai devreme ,asa si eu vroiam sa scurtez tija pentru a deschide mai tarziu.
Una peste alta nu stiu cat de fiabil este sa fie alimentat tot timpul rezistenta termostatului
 
Do you think that if we adjust the new 80 degree thermostat by 2mm, it will open later ... around 90😀?
It won't make a difference, also you can't tweak the thermostat more than we had already. Opening at 80c is sufficient especially since we already have a turbo, at least now it will stay cooler. The older engines from opel astra h had thermostat opening at 80 C aswell, except were diesels where the opening temp was 88.
 
So I originally posted the GM OEM One and the next part I found is this one on eBay I'm pretty sure it's not the right part so can anybody let me know before I order it thx



 
Was doing a test drive today on the Cruze for another reason, and looking at the live data, the lower temp Tstat is running right around 183-186* once warmed up. I had no problems with that temp, as that is what "normal" operating temps used to be.
 
Am modificat termostatul (103 la 80) si capacul vasului de expansiune (20 psi la 17 psi) nu a aparut nicio eroare si motorul merge la ralanti cu aerul functionand la o temperatura exterioara de 25 grade Celsius la max 84 In mers, cu sau fara aer, intre 79 si 85 de grade Celsius Motorul se simte bine si nu mai face presiune pe furtunuri...eee Ok! 👍 Merită toată bătaia de cap, rezultatul este uimitor pentru durata de viață a motorului Turbina prosperă, motorul nu mai scoate sunete ciudate de răcire după oprire. Felicitări tuturor celor care își dau interesul și postează soluții!

I modified the thermostat (103 to 80) and the expansion vessel lid (20 psi to 17psi) no error occurred and the engine is idling with the air running at an outside temperature of 25 degrees Celsius at max 84 On the go, with or without air, between 79 and 85 degrees Celsius The engine feels good and no longer creates any pressure on the hoses ... eee Ok! 👍 Worth all the hassle, the result is amazing for the life of the engine The turbine is thriving, the engine no longer makes strange cooling sounds after stopping Congratulations to all those who give their interest and post solutions!
 
With regard to Chevy Cruze's coolant temperature, 190 to 225 degrees F is considered reasonable. Heat is generated by a liquid coolant that has a temperature above 240 degrees Fahrenheit.
Heat is generated by the engine using a coolant mix with a boiling point of 223*. Fan kickon was 231*

The hotter things run. The more likely things are to fail.

190* has always been the norm. Although back in the day temps as cold as 160 and 175 could be bought. It was pretty common to bore out motors. Thinner cylinder walls made higher Heat and required a colder thermostat and an extra core radiator.
 
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