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If anybody is concerned that the Dorman thermostat is of lower quality, I am also fairly sure that both the stock GM/ACDelco and this Dorman thermostat are made by the same company/plant.
They both say
"made in Czech Republic" on the packaging, have similar numbers and scan codes etched onto the wax pellet body, and where the the GM part# sticker is on the side of the housing, you can see where this sticker has been peeled off of the Dorman, as evidenced by residual adhesive.
Not to challenge your claim but I looked at both thermostats on my 1.4 sonic. The Dorman had a different spring retainer, a different guide that slides in and out over the wax pellet housing. The retainer tabs that holds the spring assembly in place are better constructed. I wish I had a photo but I think I would need too take any. The problem is that my OEM was built up with the engine at time of production. Sometime in late 2014. Manufacturers make changes all the time for various reasons.
 
Interesting.
Did you buy the Dorman 902-2080?
I just installed a second one in my wife's 2017 Trax tonight, and both of them are identical in construction to the originals.
I have seen the ones that have a different design to the machanical parts, so I presume those are the ones you are talking about.
Apparently those are made by
Motorad???
 
902-808 is the correct one for stock replacement.
But we are talking about using the Dorman 902-2080, which is intended for the Volt/ELR, and swapping its internals into the original housing, to make a cooler operating thermostat for the turbo engines.
Now the OEM opening temperature for the Volt/ELR is the same as the Sonic/Cruze/Trax LUV 1.4, at 217°F.
Somehow, this 902-2080 is opening at 175-185°...
I can only presume that this thermostat was originally intended for for a market where emissions regulations are not as strict.
 
Just did a road trip with my wife's Trax with the new thermostat.
Ran between 170-180°F the whole time
I was wondering if you were able to read your fuel trims on a scanner when running the cooler temps and comparing them to the OEM thermostat?
That would give you an indication if your running the same rich/lean mixture at a lower temperature.
 
I'm able to get them, but I didnt bother looking at them beforehand.
I'll look to see what they are currently at tomorrow.
Fuel economy has been great though.
Just over 34 mpg (DIC) fully loaded, and with A/C running the whole time over 400 miles.
Mix of interstate, state highway, back country roads, and some in-town driving.
 
Ok just got home and fuel economy on the DIC indicates 34.6 mpg.
The long term fuel trims on the trip home floated around from -3.5% to
+3.5% most of the time, often under +/-1%.
On rare occasions, I would see momentary spikes to a little over +/-5%.
It seemed to spend a little more time in the negative territory than positive overall.
 
What a great thread, my 2013 40K miles has always smelled of antifreeze after I drive it--especially in the summer, I garage it and the smell is horrific in the garage every time I use it, I believe the odor is the water outlet which distorts just enough to allow some venting, although there is no leakage with the dealers static pressure test and hardly noticeable coolant loss I believe the temperature is too hot for the plastic parts long term, I'm sure the GM engineers have figured out why all the coolant related failures happen but are stuck in a rock and a hard place in that they have to satisfy the emissions with the high temps but experience high failure rates of the cooling systems, hey its all good for car sales with the reduced life on the engine from the heat----I'll be doing this mod soon !!!
I agree.
I think that the plastic cooling system components are very close to their limits of durability, especially longterm.
My 13 Sonic has had 4 water pumps (not plastic, but the seals are definitely stressed), 2 resivoirs, a water outlet, and a radiator replaced.
I think that lowering both the temperature and pressure will greatly reduce the stress on these parts.
Lower pressure surge tank caps are available, and are definitely recommended as well.
GM/ACDelco part#s are:
15 psi - 15075117 / RC98
9 psi. - 88986846 / RC108
The 9 psi cap is probably best used after the cooler thermostat, and an auxiliary radiator fan switch is installed.
 
9 psi may be a bit low. I went with a 15 psi cap. For every psi reduction you lower the boiling point of the coolant 3 degrees. That's using a 50/50 mixture of coolant that is still serviceable.
Being at sea level it's not as critical than being at higher elevations. Even though your temperature is lowered by using a different thermostat you still build up pressure in the cooling system. You just don't want the coolant to come close to a boiling point that is lowered by a lower rated cap.
 
Agreed if you are still using a stock thermostat that 9 psi is a bit low.
But with the cooler thermostat and an auxiliary fan switch, 9 psi is quite acceptable.
True, it does give you less margin if the engine does run hot, but if you monitor your temperature, you should be able to spot a problem well before things get too hot.
Then again, it may also help prevent a component failure that could result in coolant loss, and subsequent overheating...
 
Ok just got home and fuel economy on the DIC indicates 34.6 mpg.
The long term fuel trims on the trip home floated around from -3.5% to
+3.5% most of the time, often under +/-1%.
On rare occasions, I would see momentary spikes to a little over +/-5%.
It seemed to spend a little more time in the negative territory than positive overall.
What do you think of these fuel trims ??
Still waiting on the 15psi cap, thermostat change looks simple, I did discover a possible cheaper thermostat:
 
I think the fuel trims look pretty normal.
They will typically fluctuate a bit like that.
As for that thermostat you posted, you know that isnt a direct replacement, right?
You would have to modify it heavily to try getting to fit a stock housing.
Also, since these are inlet side thermostats, you will have around a 5-15°F temperature rise at the water oulet.
So a thermostat that starts to open at 187° on the inlet side will result in about 197° outlet temperatures, +/-5° depending on engine load.
 
There isnt a "fan sensor" or fan switch.
There are coolant temperature sensors which report to the PCM.
The PCM tnen decides when to activate the fan.
The PCM uses these coolant temp sensors for all of its coolant temperature related decisions, so replacing them with ones of a different value would wreak havoc on many different operating calculations.
The add-on fan switch is an easy way to sense radiator temperature and trigger the low speed fan relay well before the PCM would.
I havent studied the Cruze cooling fan circuit, but on the Sonic And Trax, there is a place you can tap into one of the factory fan relays to trigger low fan speed without the PCM being aware of it.
If the Cruze uses 5 relays to control the fan, then it is likely this can work for them as well.

And pressure is as big, or even bigger factor on the durability of the above mentioned cooling system parts than just temperature alone.
Both my Sonic and my wife's Trax now have the cooler thermostat, the added fan switch, and the 9 psi caps.
 
9 psi runs no different then 20 psi.

Gen2. 190* fan 210* 20psi
Gen1. 220* fan 230* 20psi

So why lower it?

It just means you've lowered your overflow threshold.

Boiling or not. And it probably won't. But you'll overflow sooner and easier.

Coolant doesn't have to boil to overflow.
It just gets hot enough to build pressure surpassing the cap.
 
I never claimed it ran different.
Just that there is less stress on above mentioned parts, and their lifespan will likely be much longer.
I am aware that the boil over threshold is lower, but I monitor temps closely and wont let it get too hot.
And like I also said, both our vehicles now run considerably cooler than stock...
 
Cooler then stock is all you need.

That colder 40* or whatever works wonders on parts lasting longer.

That stock temp for the gen1 is why you all have the problems you all have. I don't know what GM was thinking when they did that. It certainly didn't do wonders for their profits.
 
Agreed.
The lower temps play a major role.
The plastics are physically stronger at the lower temps.
But pressure is also important.
I've seen several sudden failures of surge tanks rupturing, even radiator header tanks suddenly give way, leading to total loss of system pressurization, rapid coolant loss, and naturally immediate overheating that leads to a tow bill.
When you see how thin some of these plastic parts are, it's a wonder they last as long as they do.
Pressure is no less than half the culprit...
If you arent comfortable with 9 psi, at least consider 15 psi...
 
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