[wasney]

As far as parts, I have not heard anything bad about Vermont Tuning. I was going to go with them until BNR released their tune. However, I have not heard too many great things regarding them either. In the end it is your choice. One main thing I have heard, I am sure someone from WOT will say something if I am wrong, only BNR offers unlimited adjustments with the purchase of the tune and handheld.

 

[XtremeRevolution]

U definitely answered some questions I had stirring up inside my head. I've also heard that trifecta was bad news. Also, to caveat on this, Vermont Tuning has some wicked parts for the Cruze as well. I think they have a better turbo upgrade than BNR, but that's just my opinion.. I can't wait to order my handheld from BNR. I had a couple questions to them directly and they responded within 48hrs and was straight to the point!


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The BNR turbo has a bigger compressor wheel, and the biggest compressor you can get on the stock style turbo. IIRC, the Vermont turbo also uses a used core as opposed to a new turbo.

The Vermont turbo also has a clipped turbine, which basically means that material is removed from the exhaust turbine fins so that you get more top end power at the expense of more turbo lag at lower speeds. The BNR turbo is not clipped.

Lastly, I believe Vermont uses a cast turbine, while the BNR turbo uses a billet turbine.

The BNR turbo is a better turbo, hands down, and one Trifecta won't even tune for.

 

[Jerry@BNR]

Andrei is right.

BNR GTX:
largest compressor wheel available and its billet
laser balanced to 250,000rpm
starts as a brand new turbo from GM
comes with a warranty against defects in materials or craftsmanship

VT turbo:
a slightly larger than stock wheel and it's cast
i have no idea if it's balanced or not
starts life as a used turbo with who knows what mileage
no warranty that I'm aware of


our turbo has proven time and time again that it walks the walk. There is a reason all the fast 1.4T guys use BNR parts and tuning. Nothing else needs said.

 

[pgthe1]

I personally can’t comment on Trifecta, as I’ve never tried their stuff. When I first started my modifications… I didn’t my research as I like to see my options. After a month of digging, I decided on the BNR tune. Man, what a difference in performance and the tune for the auto-trans is worth it alone. The unlimited tune updates and adjusting to what you want your vehicle to do is also worth it. Each tune is adjusted to your specific vehicle and NOT a canned generic tune made to work for every cruze. I’m now running the BNR GTX-14 turbo upgrade and a can’t be happier with it and the performance its putting out of this little 1.4. And I did do my research on the other upgraded turbo’s out there for the 1.4, it was a no brainer to go with BNR. As hard as I push this turbo, I’m still getting a little over 480-500miles to a tank with a mild tune loaded(93 octane). Now their customer service is another bonus. To me, customer service goes along way, witch is why I will continue to purchase from BNR. I ran into an issue that was none tune related at 11:00pm one night. I messaged Jerry, ran a log and he help me fix the issue and I was back on the road by midnight… Now that’s customer service lol.

 

[TRIFECTA]

one main thing i have heard, i am sure someone from wot will say something if i am wrong, only bnr offers unlimited adjustments with the purchase of the tune and handheld.

I'll comment on that. TRIFECTA has always tuned for modifications. We've been tuning this platform from day 1. We're the first to offer support for the 1.4T.

We have two tiers: Advantage at only $298 for a 100% stock vehicle and Elite for $398 for those that have mods and require ongoing support. We've never not had a solution to tune for mods

XtremeRevolution is correct, we do not tune for custom forced induction.

 

[wasney]

I'll comment on that. TRIFECTA has always tuned for modifications. We've been tuning this platform from day 1. We're the first to offer support for the 1.4T.

We have two tiers: Advantage at only $298 for a 100% stock vehicle and Elite for $398 for those that have mods and require ongoing support. We've never not had a solution to tune for mods

XtremeRevolution is correct, we do not tune for custom forced induction.

Thanks for clarifying. I remember that you guys had that back when I was shopping around. The two options I mean. I thought you guys got rid of the unlimited tune option and had to pay for each tune after the original tune. This is why it is nice to have you the suppliers on the forum.

 

[Chevy_Country]

I'll comment on that. TRIFECTA has always tuned for modifications. We've been tuning this platform from day 1. We're the first to offer support for the 1.4T.

We have two tiers: Advantage at only $298 for a 100% stock vehicle and Elite for $398 for those that have mods and require ongoing support. We've never not had a solution to tune for mods

XtremeRevolution is correct, we do not tune for custom forced induction.

What are the performance differences, there's a lot of speculation of customer service differences but I'm not too concerned with that, other than lights my car is stock, and besides some coil overs, maybe an intake and then just maintenance items, I'd like to keep it that way, so you're advantage sounds like a reasonable bet for me, but what am I not getting that bnr offers? Is there a handheld, multiple tunes to chose from? Similar performance enhancements? Any warranty on factory parts that maybe break short after the install?

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[XtremeRevolution]

This should answer your question.

This is made with about the same boost levels. BNR tunes are still within safe operating conditions and have the safety triggers built in that throw the car into limp mode to prevent any damage. To date nobody has reported any failures as a result of the tune.

The BNR car is the one pulling away.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=QA3ArArF5js

BNR also allows you to store multiple tunes on the handheld device, which are customized to your liking, are free, and don't require a laptop to flash.

The handheld device is about half the cost of the BNR tune and can be recouped by selling the handheld to someone else if you sell the car, which isn't an option with Trifecta.

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[evolizzee]

I chose BNR for the simple fact of wanting to have a tune that fits my expectations through testing then revising until satisfied. So far they have done just that. Plus, free revisions from tuners are wonderful. The only complaint I have is that BNR's shipped products get bottle necked trying to leave Florida (mainly through Opa Locka's facility). That's not BNR's fault though; that's the postal service's fault. Other than that my daily drives very smooth, gets 2 miles more per gallon (29.5avg before and 31.3avg now), and she can get pretty feisty now, with all the added torque, when driving through town.

I have a friend with a bolt-on, tuned, turbo Cobalt and another with a tuned ATS that love Trifecta's tuning. They just didn't seem to have the E-tuning versatility that I was looking for.

 

[TRIFECTA]

What are the performance differences, there's a lot of speculation of customer service differences but I'm not too concerned with that, other than lights my car is stock, and besides some coil overs, maybe an intake and then just maintenance items, I'd like to keep it that way, so you're advantage sounds like a reasonable bet for me, but what am I not getting that bnr offers? Is there a handheld, multiple tunes to chose from? Similar performance enhancements? Any warranty on factory parts that maybe break short after the install?

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Hello. The differences in tiers is basically what I posted about. There is no performance difference above what we advertise on a stock vehicle between Elite and Advantage.

The added performance will come from the mods you do to the engine, and you get support for that via tuning and revisions in the Elite package. If all you are doing is an intake then Adv is definitely for you.

 

[wasney]

UPDATE FOR INQUIRING MINDS:

I have now had the base tune from BNR for 2 weeks and my other requested tunes for about 4 days.

Base Tune: More power and better shifts.
Race Tune as requested: Even more power! (Mostly feels more Torquey and I love it.)
ECO Tune: In one tank using the trip calc. I went from my usual ~24.3 MPG to ~29.5. Even if you are not looking for power this tune alone makes it worth it. I cannot wait for it to warm up and see what the max MPG I can get!

It is your choice. But I am very pleased with the results from BNR.