Where do you place a floor jack on the Cruze to raise the car. I would also like to raise the entire car to rotate the tires. Is there a picture somewhere showing the jacking points.
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Are there any other places on the frame or suspension to jack up the car. I hate to place a floor jack on the places the book shows because it will bend the metal. I was hoping there were places on the suspension to raise the car and place jack stands.
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Probably a no-go on real jacking points, if it's like most newer cars...
Does anybody know if you can put a regular floor jack right next to the weld seam (where the manual says to jack it up)?
Also, do your ramps really work? Mine are just the normal red steel ramps, and I haven't tried it yet, but my other car won't go up on them, and the wife's Neon wouldn't, in the past...
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Does anybody know if you can put a regular floor jack right next to the weld seam (where the manual says to jack it up)?
Also, do your ramps really work? Mine are just the normal red steel ramps, and I haven't tried it yet, but my other car won't go up on them, and the wife's Neon wouldn't, in the past...
Mike
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I always use a block of wood on my floor jacks to distribute the weight. Also, ramps work but can be tricky. If you're careful (and probably a bit stupid like me), you can have someone hold the ramps in place with their foot so they don't slide out from under the car...
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Ramps work for any car. The jacking points suck and after placing the jack where it makes sense to, I slowly lowered the car down and noticed that after I stopped it settles more. I checked and sure enough the place where I put my jack is now bent. No biggie though. The spots shown in the manual do work and the metal did not bend.
Guess I should have checked the manual first
Guess I should have checked the manual first
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They don't work if they're too steep, and the facia gets bent before the wheels touch the ramps... That's all I'm concerned about, like happened with my wife's old Neon... I'll check my ramps this evening, and if not, I may have to get some that don't have quite the incline as mine...
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Mike
I throw a couple of 2X4 around 2 ft long partially up the ramp and drive up on those.... a ramp to get on the ramp.... had to do that with my LeSabre as well because of the long front end.
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Exactly right Burtess. You have to change the angle at which you begin your climb onto the ramp.
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12k pound Rhino Ramps work nicely with an Eco MT. The angle is just enough to clear the Eco's air dam. There's enough room under the car to change oil, change motor mounts, etc.
For jack points, I've jacked my other GM cars on front subframe mount points with no issues. In the rear, I'm planning on finding a flat area that's not the jack point, and jacking there. I already have a low-profile jack, so getting under the car is not an issue. Our other car is similarly low, and that jack was purchased with that car in mind.
12k pound Rhino Ramps work nicely with an Eco MT. The angle is just enough to clear the Eco's air dam. There's enough room under the car to change oil, change motor mounts, etc.
For jack points, I've jacked my other GM cars on front subframe mount points with no issues. In the rear, I'm planning on finding a flat area that's not the jack point, and jacking there. I already have a low-profile jack, so getting under the car is not an issue. Our other car is similarly low, and that jack was purchased with that car in mind.
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For the rear, you can jack under the spring perch. Just throw a jack there, its flat enough to get the job done and it won't hurt anything. There is also a tiny little sweet spot where the trailing arm connects to the axle. Its not very big, but its there. Its relatively flat and has a small notch in it that will grab a floor jack nicely. I wouldn't under any circumstances jack up on the axle. Its pretty thin material and is definitely not stout enough to take it.
for the spring perch you go in from behind, mostly parallel to the edge of the tire
for the other spot you go in from in front of tire at about a 45 degree angle.
for the spring perch you go in from behind, mostly parallel to the edge of the tire
for the other spot you go in from in front of tire at about a 45 degree angle.
No worries if you were to bend the pinch-welds. They are not very strong, and once they are bent, you can use them each time you need to jack it up. I've bent many in my day, and had no bad results from it. I have't raised mine yet, but i'll look in my owners man, and see what they say, but if i bend it, i bend it a little. I enjoy turning wrenches everyonce in a while, now that i don't do it for a living anymore .
And yes, the Rhino ramps should work great, i've never had an issue w/ them, with the exception of a rear-wheel drive vehicle like to push them forward.
I'm not too sure i would try Studlee's method though, feet & legs are a necessity
- Dan
.And yes, the Rhino ramps should work great, i've never had an issue w/ them, with the exception of a rear-wheel drive vehicle like to push them forward.
I'm not too sure i would try Studlee's method though, feet & legs are a necessity
- Dan
I only jack on pinch welds as a last resort since they love to rot out around me. They're also not usually compatible with floor jacks.No worries if you were to bend the pinch-welds. They are not very strong, and once they are bent, you can use them each time you need to jack it up. I've bent many in my day, and had no bad results from it. I have't raised mine yet, but i'll look in my owners man, and see what they say, but if i bend it, i bend it a little. I enjoy turning wrenches everyonce in a while, now that i don't do it for a living anymore
And yes, the Rhino ramps should work great, i've never had an issue w/ them, with the exception of a rear-wheel drive vehicle like to push them forward.
I'm not too sure i would try Studlee's method though, feet & legs are a necessity
- Dan
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I have 2 floor jacks and 2 jack stands that I use when I need to rotate the tires. I actually rotated mine 2 weeks ago and used the welds as jacking points. No bends encountered.
As far as ramps, I made a set years back out of 2x12's staggered to get a low and gradual (they are 6' long) rise for my vette and they work great on all cars.
As far as ramps, I made a set years back out of 2x12's staggered to get a low and gradual (they are 6' long) rise for my vette and they work great on all cars.
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I also used the welds on the sub-frame with my floor jack and had no issues. Used a 2x4 to disperse the weight better. Tried to use the spots GM recommended for jacking points for the jackstands once it was raised with the floor jack but when I lowered the vehicle on them it just crunched the pinch welds so won't use those again. Luckily was just the front left side I tried on first. So looks like rotating my tires gonna be more of a pain.
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