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Got a question for anyone with the 13+ M32 trans. Does your shifter have a lot of side to side slop when in gear?

If I'm in gear I can wiggle the shifter side to side like 1". 1st. 2nd, 5th, 6th have the most play and 3rd, 4th have just a little. I highly doubt this is normal but since the my trans was replaced with the updated version (with different style linkage) I'm not positive.

Here's a pic of the shifter linkage for the updated trans, the older style looks a good bit different. If yours looks like this please let me know how much play you have in the shifter while in gear.

 
I'm guessing that this may be the issue I've been having with my '12 cruze LT? It's started grinding moving from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd gear the past couple of weeks and it has been notchy since, well pretty much the day I got it? I just figured that was the way they made it to shift. my question is, with it grinding has something already gone wrong? Will replacing the fluid help at this point, or am i looking at running into the same thing Gunrunr did, and looking at having to drop a new tranny in it with the grinding gears issue?
 
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I'm guessing that this may be the issue I've been having with my '12 cruze LT? It's started grinding moving from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd gear the past couple of weeks and it has been notchy since, well pretty much the day I got it? I just figured that was the way they made it to shift. my question is, with it grinding has something already gone wrong? Will replacing the fluid help at this point, or am i looking at running into the same thing Gunrunr did, and looking at having to drop a new tranny in it with the grinding gears issue?
The grinding is caused by the fluid not being thick enough to allow the synchros to engage properly, and the notchyness is caused by the same. The fluid will resolve the notchy problems and either greatly aleviate the grind or cure it altogether.
 
I put the Amsoil in my eco manual 15,000 miles ago, after having put 6000 on the car with the original fluid. It is a 2014. This oil made a huge difference. Runs like a top.


However, how many miles can I run it like this before replacing it? 100,000? 50,000? (I also overfilled it to 2.5 quarts.)

Finally, if you could provide any links to articles focused on this unique manual transmission, I would appreciate it.
 
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I put the Amsoil in my eco manual 15,000 miles ago, after having put 6000 on the car with the original fluid. It is a 2014. This oil made a huge difference. Runs like a top.


However, how many miles can I run it like this before replacing it? 100,000? 50,000? (I also overfilled it to 2.5 quarts.)

Finally, if you could provide any links to articles focused on this unique manual transmission, I would appreciate it.
There aren't a whole lot of articles around. Most of it can be found by going to google.co.uk and searching for "m32 gearbox."

Glad you swapped it in and noticed a difference. Pretty much everyone does. You should be good for 40-50k on this fluid before shifting starts becoming inconsistent.
 
So do you have any speculations as to how many miles a person can get out of this manual...and this 1.4 litre engine for that matter, before repairs will be needed...say if one changes the manual transmission fluid every 45,000 and the engine oil every 5000? 200,000?

There aren't a whole lot of articles around. Most of it can be found by going to google.co.uk and searching for "m32 gearbox."

Glad you swapped it in and noticed a difference. Pretty much everyone does. You should be good for 40-50k on this fluid before shifting starts becoming inconsistent.
 
Hello Im new to the forum and I have just bought a used 2014 1.4 eco. My question is and I havent been under the car yet so dont hate. Is the drain an fill plug easily accessiable from under the car. Or is there a link I can go to that show A how to. Thanks guys
 
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So do you have any speculations as to how many miles a person can get out of this manual...and this 1.4 litre engine for that matter, before repairs will be needed...say if one changes the manual transmission fluid every 45,000 and the engine oil every 5000? 200,000?
Under sane driving conditions, this transmission should easily exceed 500,000 miles. It will really depend on how you drive it. Good maintenance will go a long way.
 
When the engine is cold, my MT have some difficulty to shift into 2nd gear, it's not grinding, but you feel that there is a little resistance. Do you think the amsoil would resolve the problem? Do you have a how to for changing the trans. oil?

Thank you!
 
When the engine is cold, my MT have some difficulty to shift into 2nd gear, it's not grinding, but you feel that there is a little resistance. Do you think the amsoil would resolve the problem? Do you have a how to for changing the trans. oil?

Thank you!
It certainly helps significantly but does not alleviate the first to second stiffness entirely. That's just a characteristic of this transmission. However, once warmed up a little, the fluid makes all gear changes extremely smooth.

http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/129-...om/forum/129-engine-transmission/6627-how-change-manual-transmission-fluid.html
 
Strange that the 2013 cruze owners manual shows automatic transmission change interval but nothing for the manual.
Manual is "life of the vehicle" but the fluid quality and under filled amount in the trans dictates otherwise. 8-10k is enough to burn it up and cause random issues like grinds regardless how you shift and close to freezing up in cold weather.
 
Manual is "life of the vehicle" but the fluid quality and under filled amount in the trans dictates otherwise. 8-10k is enough to burn it up and cause random issues like grinds regardless how you shift and close to freezing up in cold weather.
Lifetime fluid is BS, manual or automatic. I think the 14 and 15 owners manuals do specify a change period for the MT fluid.
 
On the Amsoil website which AMSOIL Synthetic Manual Synchromesh Transmission Fluid .Which GM number belongs to the chevy cruze eco
AMSOIL doesn't provide a "matching" fluid for the ECO MT. I'm running AMSOIL syncrhomesh. They have a second fluid that works for colder climates as well.

Strange that the 2013 cruze owners manual shows automatic transmission change interval but nothing for the manual.
Download the 2014 Owners Manual and use the Severe service schedule with two modifications. Clutch/Brake fluid every 30,000 miles and Syncrhomesh every 45K miles. The OE synchromesh is really only good for 15K miles and even then it's a little too thin for the 1->2 shift under load.
 
AMSOIL doesn't provide a "matching" fluid for the ECO MT. I'm running AMSOIL syncrhomesh. They have a second fluid that works for colder climates as well.



Download the 2014 Owners Manual and use the Severe service schedule with two modifications. Clutch/Brake fluid every 30,000 miles and Syncrhomesh every 45K miles. The OE synchromesh is really only good for 15K miles and even then it's a little too thin for the 1->2 shift under load.
Is there a way to complain at my GM dealer to do the switch with the warranty? I mean it is not normal that the OEM trans oil last only 15k!
 
Is there a way to complain at my GM dealer to do the switch with the warranty? I mean it is not normal that the OEM trans oil last only 15k!
Short answer, no.

Although we, as passionate lovers of machines, disagree with the manufacturer regarding lubricant quality and change intervals, the manufacturer has determined that the lubricant used is satisfactory for the life of the vehicle.

The dealer is not in a position to override the manufacturer and make warranty claims.
The transmission is covered under the 5yr 100mile powertrain program and the manufacturer has determined that the lubricant will remain satisfactory for at least that long.

Forum posters have found, by substituting different products, and altering the maintenence schedule, that the overall vehicle performance in day to day operation, can be enhanced and make a pleasant vehicle more pleasant to operate.
The possibility of enhancing the lifespan of components presents itself as well.

So, it all boils down to the desire to enhance overall operation and, from a cost standpoint, it's on our dime.

Same would apply to motor oil......the majority would not recommend operating your vehicle on the recommended oil for the suggested change mileage.....the manufacturer disagrees.
The dealer, being full of mechanics, likely agrees with our thoughts as well but is not in a position to provide free oil changes just because we don't agree with the manufacturer.


Rob
 
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