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Discussion starter · #342 ·
Should the throttle spacer be installed only in one position? He thinks the check valve is down. Can it also be upward?
Haven't tried to have it face upward. You'd have to get a longer hose if you wanted to do that, which is really up to you.

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The kit will arrive fast, the spacer took about 4-5days till it finally shipped out, then the shipping time, bout 8-9 days for the spacer.
Yup I received the kit next day and the spacer shipped 2days later. I was hopping to put it in this weekend but I doubt the spacer will be here.
 
Discussion starter · #345 ·
Introducing the PCV Fix Kit V2. This will be available by the end of the week and will be $85 shipped. Unlike the V1 ($70) which requires a BNR TB spacer (an extra $60), this installs directly into the intake manifold through the brake booster port connection with an OEM-like fit and appearance, using a brake booster tee fitting that requires no modification to factory connections while providing a 5/16" barb to connect the PCV line. The kit will come with everything needed for installation including all brass fittings, check valve, washers, hose, hose clamps, and the required brake booster tee.

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I was going to do this (in fact as you know I did something similar). The only reason I did not mount the valve like that is because the manifold fitting is now supporting the weight of the brass valve from the 1/4" NPT fitting mounted into the intake manifold.

It should be fine but thats the reason I didn't mount it like this.. Oh and the way I did it (mounted next to the throttle body) is it provides access to the valve without removing the intake manifold. That should not be required however.

What are your thoughts on the effect of the flow going to the PCV valve on the brake boost function? As you know I used the larger purge take off but that required making a custom fitting which is not the buy and fit design you are going for. Have you road tested this new design?

Thanks for all your work on this!
 
Discussion starter · #348 ·
I was going to do this (in fact as you know I did something similar). The only reason I did not mount the valve like that is because the manifold fitting is now supporting the weight of the brass valve from the 1/4" NPT fitting mounted into the intake manifold.

It should be fine but thats the reason I didn't mount it like this.. Oh and the way I did it (mounted next to the throttle body) is it provides access to the valve without removing the intake manifold. That should not be required however.

What are your thoughts on the effect of the flow going to the PCV valve on the brake boost function? As you know I used the larger purge take off but that required making a custom fitting which is not the buy and fit design you are going for. Have you road tested this new design?

Thanks for all your work on this!
The valve does not add enough weight for it to be remotely problematic, especially mounted so close. The only real consequence is accessibility, which in this case is a non-issue as the valve is so over-built for the application that it will probably take 100k miles for it to need cleaning or replacement.

The brake booster will not be affected at all. The connection point for the PCV line is at a lower elevation than the brake booster connection, so any liquid flowing through it will fall downward. Any time the intake manifold is under vacuum, it will be pulling gas downward, and when the intake manifold is under pressure, the brake booster line has its own check valve that will immediately prevent any upward flow.

I have road tested the design and it works just like the V1 design. No difference at all.
 
Good to know. I was not considering the effect of "oily moisture" on the brake boost.. More that the flow of PCV gasses reducing the available vacuum available to the brake boost dues to the relatively small size of the take off on the manifold.

That was the reason I went for the larger purge connection.

Either way though.. you road tested it and it works so can't argue with success..:)
 
Discussion starter · #350 ·
Good to know. I was not considering the effect of "oily moisture" on the brake boost.. More that the flow of PCV gasses reducing the available vacuum available to the brake boost dues to the relatively small size of the take off on the manifold.

That was the reason I went for the larger purge connection.

Either way though.. you road tested it and it works so can't argue with success..:)
Ah I see. Yeah for the purpose of applying vacuum, I haven't noticed a difference. The port is large enough that sufficient air can flow through it. Keep in mind that PCV flow is actually pretty slow on this car when it's under vacuum since the valve cover acts as a vacuum pressure regulator. On the OE design, all that was available were several tiny little holes for PCV gas to pass through.
 
Discussion starter · #351 ·
Went out for a drive just now and got the car up to 45 mph in an empty stretch of road. Turned off traction control and stability control and slammed the brakes. Tires locked up and left a nice patch on the blacktop, and mind you I have heavier tires than OEM and 2 sizes wider at 235.

Safe to say braking performance isn't affected.

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Discussion starter · #353 ·
I used the PayPal link to purchase the V1 kit probably the day before you posted your V2 kit. Any chance I can get an upgrade before mine ships?
It's not really an upgrade, it's more of a different design to help reduce the price of the fix. Did you already order or have the BNR throttle body spacer? I already shipped out all of the orders except for one that I got in yesterday, and that order isn't going to California. I probably dropped yours off already.
 
It's not really an upgrade, it's more of a different design to help reduce the price of the fix. Did you already order or have the BNR throttle body spacer?
How does Version 2 bring the recirculated air back ahead of the mass airflow sensor? I remember reading some people using the port for the emissions solenoid vent is that what your doing in version 2?
 
Discussion starter · #355 ·
How does Version 2 bring the recirculated air back ahead of the mass airflow sensor? I remember reading some people using the port for the emissions solenoid vent is that what your doing in version 2?
I think you are thinking of something entirely different. There are two check valves here, the one in the intake manifold and the one at the turbo inlet. Both are downstream of the mass air flow sensor in the factory configuration and mine.

My fix kits are designed only to address the intake manifold check valve. They are isolated to that specific area of the car. They take the PCV path from the intake manifold and re-route it into the intake path of the intake manifold. The only major difference between the V1 and V2 kit is where that return line gets connected to. With the V1 kit, it gets connected to a BNR throttle body spacer, and with the V2 kit, it gets connected to a tee fitting on the brake booster port.
 
Went out for a drive just now and got the car up to 45 mph in an empty stretch of road. Turned off traction control and stability control and slammed the brakes. Tires locked up and left a nice patch on the blacktop, and mind you I have heavier tires than OEM and 2 sizes wider at 235.

Safe to say braking performance isn't affected.

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Umm.. yup...:)
 
I purchased this kit, and installed it exactly as instructed, but still getting p0171 and in one weeks time it consumed about one quart of oil in 6 days. Any additional tips to defeat this nightmare?
One quart in 6 days is a LOT of oil consumption. That suggests either pistons or turbo. I recommend you perform a compression test. Also be sure you've checked out this thread:

https://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/34-...4l-turbo/192442-2011-2016-cruze-1-4-pcv-valve-cover-intake-manifold-issues.html
Yup, that thread got me to this thread. Everything exactly but still getting the p0171 and a quart every week. Feels very restrained towards the end of the weeks. Weekends i clean throttle body, air sensors, and its good till about 3 days then repeat.
 
At 1st i replaced the valve cover. Later that night, i read into what i worked on that day and thats when i learned that replacing the valve cover was not really fixing the root problem. So i called the owner and advised her that the engine light is gona be turning back on after a few drives. Then i suggested this mod, i was convinced it was the fix. After installing it exactly how it was suggested, still p0171. Pulled a lil vacuum thru the lil opening ontop of the pcv and it held vacuum. Ran it and smoke tested the lil opening, nothing, no smoke being sucked in and no air coming out to blow the smoke. But p0171 still.
Have you tried the propane trick to look for a vacuum leak?
No i haven't. Im still stuck on the quart of oil every 6 days thing. Im ready to drive this into a canal, its just costing more n more time and money.
 
Only question: If i replaced the valve cover, drove the vehicle for a week while waiting for the kit and throttle body spacer, THEN installed the kit, p0171, valve cover ruptured again (spitting out oil from the little port on top of the diaphragm), would another valve cover be all i need to fix the p0171 and no more problems afterwards?
 
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